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Wrexham - Dancingwilldoit - 17-08-2022
What a great game last night. We were unplayable. Made them look very ordinary.
Every player deserved mom. Fitzsimmons had little to do but what he needed to he did well. I wasn't sure about the re signing of Banks but he's been a revelation. Everyone stepped up and our fitness levels especially after Saturday were extraordinary.
Notts away next. More of the same please.
RE: Wrexham - Devongone - 17-08-2022
I cannot get my head around Wrexham. If you were picking the best XI from the National League at least four of them would be Wrexham players. Three results in and all three for them have been below what they and their fans must expect. They struggled for a home win, got in a tight game at Yeovil, and either came unstuck, or were systematically unglued by us. Last season too I felt they were mismanaged, but they have a proven, successful manager. Something is missing. You can watch them and if things go right you'll conclude this team is a cut above, but at other times they'll be lacklustre and those things that work on good days let them down. And there are teams like us who are good enough once we get on top in a game to stay there.
An amazing clear-cut win. Glad Asante is proving Dancing and I right. If we could play well again on Saturday that might just become a blueprint for the season. It seems obvious, but once you are doing well at football it becomes a whole lot easier to keep doing well.
RE: Wrexham - SaltergateBorn - 17-08-2022
Interesting point that, Dev.
I`ve been reading the Wrexham fans` forum this morning to see what their views on the game were. Some of them acknowledge that they were beaten by a far better team on the night but the majority are thoroughly scathing about their own team. Useless, pathetic, Parkinson should be sacked etc, etc, etc. I also watched a vlog that one of their supporters in the North Stand had made of the match and the booing of their own team, even at half-time, was akin to what our players were getting from some of our supporters 3 or 4 years ago. Dancing will remember. Just like our players did then, they kept noticeably well away from the supporters even when they were applauding their `support` at the final whistle. It all brought back memories.
I wonder whether that`s part of the problem. The Hollywood business, the money spent, their being odds-on favourites with the bookies before a ball was even kicked; it all builds pressure, which is magnified several times over when they know that their own supporters are going to turn on them at very short notice when things go badly. I`m absolutely sure that it had an adverse effect on our players and I reckon it could be doing the same to theirs.
Thanks for the report, Dancing. It`s made me even more determined to get along myself before long. (I actually went to watch Buxton last night. One of the neighbours is a regular and he invited me along; I decided to go on the basis that it would stop me twitching about how we were doing. Got a very pleasant surprise when I got home)
RE: Wrexham - Dancingwilldoit - 17-08-2022
Wrexham play very direct and dont seem to have any alternative.
I'd be interested to know exactly how many goals they score from set pieces. They got 2 against us last season but last night we just absorbed all their pressure with absolute ease.
Think the stats read 1 shot on target for them the whole game while we had something like 17 on target. Parkinson is getting some stick from their fans for being a dinosaur and not being capable of making changes when its needed. He certainly didnt last night.
They were not a good watch with sly pushes in the back and going down at every opportunity. Fortunately the ref saw through most of it. It pees me off though when teams have the skill set to play good football and yet they find it necessary to cheat.
I have only just realised we have had 2 decent refs in our last 2 games. Thats got to be a record for the National League.
RE: Wrexham - Devongone - 17-08-2022
Dancing, I do love that even when you praise refs you manage to have a sly, or even not so sly, dig.
The point about Wrexham playing the wrong style is well made. At times last season they seemed obsessed with Tozer's long throw. Yes it's amazingly good, but several teams handled it with ease. If for instance you are Bromley and have a 6,6" centre back then you hope the opposition will aim their attacks at his head.
Wrexham have the best midfield player in the section, but if you bypass him a lot of the time you can't expect him to set up lots of chances for Mullin can you?
I suppose that is down to the manager, but as SGB suggests fear is a factor for them. A potential crowd of 10,000 cheering them on is a huge bonus at times, but it is a lot of pressure when things are going wrong. And yes it must be difficult for the players, who if they win hear their club has simply bought success and if they lose discover they've let the whole town down.
Wrexham have sacked an awful lot of managers whilst trying to escape the National League, without ever finding the solution.
RE: Wrexham - spireitematt - 18-08-2022
(17-08-2022, 15:21)SaltergateBorn Wrote: Thanks for the report, Dancing. It`s made me even more determined to get along myself before long. (I actually went to watch Buxton last night. One of the neighbours is a regular and he invited me along; I decided to go on the basis that it would stop me twitching about how we were doing. Got a very pleasant surprise when I got home)
Did you pay on the day? I noticed you can buy tickets online for home games.
We've started the season off very well with 7pts from 9. It's still early in the season for other clubs who haven't hit the ground running so far, remember Stockport who went up as champions had started the season off poorly and with a change of manager they put a good run of results together and went on to win the league.
I once read in a Chesterfield programme a few years ago that we did something very similar in the 60s where the start of the season was poor but ended up putting together a run of results and ended up winning the league.
As for Wrexham it goes to show you that money can't buy you everything. They have spent money on transfers and wages and built a team which wouldn't look out of place in L1 but Parkinson can't seem to get them playing as a team.
RE: Wrexham - SaltergateBorn - 18-08-2022
Yes, Matt; we paid on the gate. They accept card payments quite happily.
I think the season you`re thinking of is 1970/71. I seem to remember that the first game was at home to Port Vale, an evening kick-off at 6:30 because Derbyshire were playing at Queens Park the same day (I went to both). We`d spent a bit of money in the close season and we all had great expectations, as usual, but we were bloody awful. We lost 1-0 and barely had a shot on goal. That went on for a few games until Jimmy McGuigan made the inspired decision (it turned out) to move Tom Fenoughty from up front to midfield and we never looked back.
I`ve just seen the highlights on our Youtube channel. If they`re anything like representative of the whole game, it seems to me we could have won by quite a few more. I`m trying hard not to get carried away, but if we win at County I probably will.
ERRATUM - When I think about it, it would have been 1969/70 season - not 1970/71
RE: Wrexham - Dancingwilldoit - 18-08-2022
The highlights are pretty representative. Wrexham had a fair percentage of the ball but achieved nothing with it. Fitzimmons didn't have a single save to make. Like I said before we were good all over the field and I couldn't pick a mom, we had 11 of them.
We should have had more but hey 2 was enough to win it.