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Signing Stefan Payne - Devongone - 03-07-2021
I'm in no position to judge but the signing of Stefan Payne excites me not at all. He's been everywhere and he's only scored goals in impressive numbers for two clubs - Hornchurch and Dover.
I just have to trust Mr Rowe on this one. He knows the non-league scene.
His past record will have nothing to do with it once he gets out on the pitch.
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Dancingwilldoit - 03-07-2021
Agree, its a strange one but who knows?
We seem to be doing more signings than the local deaf school (Is that politically OK?)
In a recent interview JR indicates a few outgoings but no names. The original JR (Ewing) was a headstrong wheeler dealer with no scruples and an all round bastard. Hope its not a matter of if the cap (with initials on it) fits.
By the way Dev how are you getting on with the house move and what do you think of all the great Brexit benefits we have won now things have settled down?
I know you are not quite Cornwall but It looks to me like a great bird shat on them from on high, with all the lost EU funding. On the other hand their big win was hosting the Magnificent 7 and rampant Covid. Cant complain can they?
With all the corrupt loony politicians ruining and fleecing the UK PLC, have you changed your opinion of the calm and collected EU with all its Eurocrats that was doomed to failure after we left or are you still of the same opinion?
In all honesty if I could leave tomorrow I would. The way they are stirring up rampant Nationalism is a recipe for disaster, we are heading down a road I certainly dont want to go down. Problem is now I cant go anywhere.
Was thinking about starting a business to buy up all the boats those horrible little foreign scroungers use to get over from France and sell 1 way tickets to France and Belgium for political asylum seekers wanting to get out while they can. I reckon I would make a fortune, what do you think?
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Devongone - 03-07-2021
Before I go to watch the match I have to tell you that the EU made a great mistake in funding Cornwall. It shouldn't ever have been eligible. It also used the money to which it should not have been entitled to close a college in Devon in order to increase its own student numbers and create the University of Cornwall out of Falmouth College of Arts.
When did the things settle down?
When did I tell you there would be huge quick benefits from leaving?
The deaf signing comment was so un-PC it fell off the scale. Well done!
Good job I went, would've missed Kane's first goal, which I at 69 would have stopped. Doing the splits and keeping your arms down by your side does not constitute goalkeeping, stick your arms out maybe with the hands on the end ........ spread yourself - what nit is coaching this current nonsense goalkeeping?
Anyway the big advantage of escaping the EU has been seen in the pandemic. The only thing the EU did in concert was buy vaccines. It was so inefficient and bureaucratic British scientists with their advice enabled even our stupid government to leave the EU changing tyres in the pit lane. In the long term the EU project can't work. Orban in Hungary is a million miles away from many of his EU counterparts, and then they've got Poland declaring LGBTQ-free zones! Just because we elected a buffoon, who negotiated us a deal, which even Mrs May recognised would be potentially disastrous, you can't blame the absence of the EU for the problems. Most of them are deliberately being caused by our bitter friends, who we were idiots to put in this position.
BUT you and I may well be alive because we were EU-free and thus better at vaccination.
As for moving home, I'm still looking. There are plenty of places I could buy in Chesterfield, but nothing that absolutely grabs me. Matlock comes close. I could well end up there if I have the energy.
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Dancingwilldoit - 04-07-2021
We didn't need to leave the EU to go our own way with vaccines Dev as well you know. Every country had a choice.
Even with our world beating vaccine roll out, we still managed to get higher death and infection figures than anybody else in the EU but maybe that's because we were too busy vaccinating and took our eye off things?
Today they are talking about letting it rip after July 19th, if that's not a recipe for disaster then I don't know what is. Savage Javid and bustling big backhander Bob Jenrick have decided to pool their vast health knowledge and re-classify covid as flue (again).
Just think if Savage and been in charge of health last March we could have avoided all the attempts at getting it under control and protecting ourselves, we would probably be dead so nothing to worry about there. Put a banker in charge of anything that doesn't involve rejecting loan applications and what does he become? It rhymes with Banker.
"We're doomed I tell thee"
Matlock is very nice this time of year but a bit of a bugger after heavy rain lifts the Derwent about 20 - 30'. Head for the hills if you want to keep your feet dry, I seem to remember you had a bit of a run in with a small brook a few years back so you know what its like.
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - spireitematt - 04-07-2021
(04-07-2021, 20:01)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: We didn't need to leave the EU to go our own way with vaccines Dev as well you know. Every country had a choice.
Even with our world beating vaccine roll out, we still managed to get higher death and infection figures than anybody else in the EU but maybe that's because we were too busy vaccinating and took our eye off things?
Today they are talking about letting it rip after July 19th, if that's not a recipe for disaster then I don't know what is. Savage Javid and bustling big backhander Bob Jenrick have decided to pool their vast health knowledge and re-classify covid as flue (again).
Just think if Savage and been in charge of health last March we could have avoided all the attempts at getting it under control and protecting ourselves, we would probably be dead so nothing to worry about there. Put a banker in charge of anything that doesn't involve rejecting loan applications and what does he become? It rhymes with Banker.
"We're doomed I tell thee"
Matlock is very nice this time of year but a bit of a bugger after heavy rain lifts the Derwent about 20 - 30'. Head for the hills if you want to keep your feet dry, I seem to remember you had a bit of a run in with a small brook a few years back so you know what its like.
As a Eurosceptic who voted Remain, the EU do have good things about them like the single market, FOM, Erasmus and I think the working together on science and research is vital, the rest of it is just red tape but you could say a lot of our political system in the UK is red tape etc.
Yes you are correct Dancing, we didn't need to leave the EU to go our own way on vaccines as we've never been part of the EU vaccination programme even before Covid 19 was a thing but I think the scientists like Whitty, JVT etc and sage told our Government to start putting orders in on vaccines because I very much doubt the Government would have done it off their own back. The problem with the EU and the vaccines orders were the EU were trying to get the best price possible and they kept waiting around very much like someone trying to get a cheap Christmas present at 3pm on Christmas Eve only to find out that what they were going to buy is sold out or not in stock so they end up picking anything.
Like you Dancing I agree I think we are going down a road that I certainly don't want to go down either, there are a few similarities of the 1930's and that is terrifying. Is the EU perfect? Nope far from it. Will Britain leaving the EU end up with the EU collapsing? No but the arguments over LGBT and other laws might bring the EU down as certain countries in the bloc are against these laws.
Back to the football, I think it's an odd signing but can Rowe get the best out of him? Sounds like a few players might be departing probably for a fee. I tell you what I do find rather odd is the fact that the chief scout Paul Lemon's position was terminated with immediate effect and George Foster who was the assistant manager is now doing the scouting and that the new assistant manager is Danny Webb.
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Devongone - 05-07-2021
The point about the EU vaccination purchase, or almost anything else the EU does, is that it needs to go through a lengthy process of being approved by all the countries involved. Were it a commercial company investors would be running for the hills. It is slow in a quick world.
Our scientists pushed the government in all the right directions on which vaccines to purchase. We were purchasing before the vaccines actually existed because our scientists were up with what was being developed. The EU was only entering the purchasing stage when vaccines were reaching the approval stage, months behind the UK.
Individually EU countries did better than us coping with the virus because they have better and better-funded health services AND BECAUSE THEY REACTED INDIVIDUALLY, not as a bureaucratic collective. Every winter our hospitals hit 90% capacity and if an epidemic hits they begin to be overwhelmed. Germany has more beds, more doctors , more staff and runs at a much lower capacity so that when the unexpected hits it can cope. France is much the same. Spain is better too. That said none of the EU countries is a travel hub in quite the same way the UK is. If an infection arises somewhere it is almost certain to hit the UK PDQ. Covid was unusual in that it gave us some time and a good warning by having a good go at Italy first, but the government was still copping a deaf ear at that point. Repeated over the Indian Variant.
The fact remains that bigger and bureaucratic are negatives. The EU had massive buying power over vaccines. It should have held all the cards. Losing out was like France being knocked out of the World Cup by Guam or Christmas Island. There are many good things about the EU, but EU funding is a myth. You puts your money in and they decides where it gets spent ....... and they ain't either very accountable or efficient, even if they are likeable.
And that's what I worry about with Chesterfield too. Everyone seems nice, but we haven't done such nice things and I wonder who is accountable and how.
The trouble with Lockdown etc is that it isn't a solution. It's all right shouting stop the world, but there's nowhere to get off. If I never go out I won't catch Covid, but I will die alone.
I AM looking at walking uphill to any new home in Matlock. Good advice.
By the way the EU DID very generously offer the UK the chance to be part of its vaccine-buying programme. We turned down that offer I think because scientists and civil servants were convinced they were close enough to the research and development globally to come up with the right answers ........ which they did. As to why we did worse than the rest of Europe concerning Covid deaths, it is more than a matter of a relatively under- resourced health system compared to European neighbours, it also has to do with the way many of our communities are crammed together to live so near to the edge of poverty that £90 a week sick pay, if forced to self-isolate, would be a choice of not paying the rent, or not eating. I'd argue we are more like the USA than the continent of Europe - and they were dying like flies across the Atlantic too.
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Dancingwilldoit - 06-07-2021
Dont accept the "UK - hub" argument one bit. We are an island and could have controlled incoming exactly the same as New Zealand and Australia did early on.
To then let the Delta variant in just because Johnstone wanted his moment of glory in front of the cameras with a great new trade deal with India was just criminal. Now he just washes his hands of it and tells the rest of us suckers to "Live with it".
Even with reduced Tory funding the NHS did wonders coping with the worst of the pandemic. The so called Nightingale hospitals were built then lay unused because they couldnt staff them. Why was that? Could it be that Brexit scared all the Eastern Europeans nursing staff back home? Whatever the answer it was just another waste of money like everything else our government touches. I bet there were a few Conservative MP's involved in the companies building and removing them.
We are being run by shysters cheats and blatant liars lining their own pockets. Because the big landlords in London sit looking at the potential of lower office uptake due to people working from home, to maintain the influx of funds into the Tory party coffers, our leaders are desperate to get back to the norm as soon as they can and bugger the rest of us.
Several people allegedly heard Bozo say "Let the bodies pile high in their thousands". Well maybe he will get his wish after all.
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Devongone - 07-07-2021
I spent years working in university applications. Most of that time one of the biggest queries came from potential medical students being rejected despite a certainty of very high grades in ALL their exams. There were too few places. That situation has improved slightly. The Peninsula Medical School came into existence down here and the cap on course numbers, by which universities lost funding if they over-recruited students, changed, but we still train far too few doctors. And we spend a lower percentage of our national outlay than our European neighbours on health care. And look at the result.
I used to spend hours trying to advise students on other routes into medicine, because they felt they could do no more than gain a string of As and volunteer in medical settings for experience. One year I wrote our book How to Apply for Medicine and Dentistry, so I do know about the history behind this.
We are always run by shysters and cheats. It's just that the production of daily death figures makes it more obvious. BUT there are also good men and women involved, with whom we might not agree, but who do actually want to serve their fellow man - even some Tories Pttttaaaaawwwwww! (Not handoncock or bozza).
I'm quite happy to apply common sense and to protect other people, but I'd like to make decisions on the truth as we know it, not on some version cooked up by over-cautious scientists, big business, or desperate small business owners and ministers under pressure. Are masks any actual use for example? I'll wear one for other people's sensibilities, but am I contributing? Tell me, but if you've an axe to grind in what you say I want to know.
What kind of freedom, is a freedom not to be vaccinated and thus put others at risk anyway? Why shouldn't it be compulsory? Having sex with as many people as possible knowing you are HIV positive would be assault. Why would refusing to be vaccinated in a vaccinated world and allowing the virus to survive and possibly mutate not be an assault on the rest of us?
RE: Signing Stefan Payne - Dancingwilldoit - 10-07-2021
So most of the EU countries now have vaccinated more of their population than the UK.
Was reading that 45% of last weeks deaths were people that had 2 jabs.
God knows where the hell we are heading but am sure its not to safety.
If we were at war Johnston could be charged with war crimes. The highest death rates in Europe before we even start with his common sense approach. Speaking of common sense, a guy that can stick 9 Cadbury's cream eggs up his backside to get some kind of notoriety through publicity is not an isolated nut case. 45% of the electorate voted the biggest wanker ever to walk out of the gates of Eton as their prime minister. There have been numerous others but he really takes the biscuit.