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RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Foxman_WBA - 16-08-2017
(16-08-2017, 13:46)4evaabaggie Wrote: Barry .... £800,000 for a year should be a good deal. Doesn't disperse my disappointment that we are constantly signing players towards the end of their careers, (over 30's) some way over or players with horrendous injury records ... yes, generally we have a good record of keeping them injury free but that risk is there.
Why oh why can't we build a squad, a competitive squad of 20 - 25 year old that can push for glory for years and be built and developed instead of fire fighting every year, plugging this hole and that hole with a cheap stop gap.
I know I'm just a dreamer but I'm not the only one ...... I hope one day you'll join up and the Albion will live as one.
I do agree with this and in an ideal world I would be asking the same questions however if you look at all other prem teams the squad is constantly changing year in year out. I do wonder sometimes why we don’t spend more on slightly younger players as the resale value would be higher etc, taking Barry on at £800,000 at his age is a straight up expense. You spend £20 mil on a younger model play them for 3 years then flog them on for £40 mil (the way the money is going wouldn’t surprise me) that £20mil player has actually cost less.
But having said that, it’s clearly not that easy as all clubs would do it, some spend millions on players that turn out to be awful and end up wasting tens of millions on garbage. For all premier league teams it’s obvious that the here and now is more important than the future due to the prize money involved. Which is why constant stop gaps and Pulis style management will be the rage.
Let’s face it if a player is good enough and young enough they get one season at a club like us before the big boys come sniffing. Look at Southampton, constantly buying good young players and constantly getting raided.
I yearn for the days of free flowing attacking football with icons at the club, but those days are long gone It would be nice though to start the season with a full squad though let’s face it however it’s clear that quality is hard to come by and its better that than just a squad of dross.
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Dingle-Dingle - 16-08-2017
When Barry was first linked I screamed NO, not another old fart. Since then I have read lots of reports and stuff about him. All favourable, lots of praise. Apparently other Premier clubs wanted him too. Hope he does the job.
Next year though can we get our squad built early and gelled before the start of the season.
DD
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - drewks - 16-08-2017
(16-08-2017, 17:22)Dingle-Dingle Wrote: When Barry was first linked I screamed NO, not another old fart. Since then I have read lots of reports and stuff about him. All favourable, lots of praise. Apparently other Premier clubs wanted him too. Hope he does the job.
Next year though can we get our squad built early and gelled before the start of the season.
DD
Agree, DD ....but how many years have we been saying that last sentence??
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - aidacuk - 16-08-2017
Man City after Evans according to SSN.
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - GlassEyedBomber - 16-08-2017
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BBC reporting the city interest in Evans too which is worrying...hope we can get someone of the same ilk with the money from the sale!
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Beefy 1965 - 16-08-2017
Bollocks
Man City just had a £18 Million pound offer Rejected
Needs to be at least £30 Million IMHO with the way the transfer market is now
Just what we did not want
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/898259454?-11200:789:0
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Alouion - 16-08-2017
Can anyone out there understand the transfer values of players any more? Apparently Van Dyck is £60m, Deeney £32m, Walker is £50m yet Johnny Evans attracts bids of £10m from Leicester and now £18m from City.
This for a player who defended so well for us last year and helped get us to 8th for most of the season. This for a player who is our club captain and has played 198 times for Manchester United. This for a player who will almost certainly become their fist choice at City because Kompany is injury-prone, £40m Mangala is accident prone, and £50m Stone can't defend for toffee. If they offered a straight swap for Stones we would be conned and they paid £50m for him.
Are they taking us for mugs?
I would love to think that Evans would be able to see that Pulis and Albion have been good for him and his career and he is a better player than when he left United and stay. However with him living in the area and the prospect of Champions League it is bound to influence his decision.
Personally I don't want him to leave at all but if, as I suspect, he is to leave, can we dispense with the comedy bids and start the negotiations at £50m?
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Slick_Footwork - 16-08-2017
If Man City have a genuine interest and it's not just a smokescreen to get a lower price on Van Dijk, I expect he will go.
As much as it'd be great to get loyalty from a player, City are a team with genuine title credentials and he would probably play there. So I'd be shocked if he didn't want to go.
However, given the lateness of the bid and the fact we are already short of a centre half with Evans, they're going to have to come up with a lot more than £18m as they'd be leaving us in the shyte. £25m and Mangala on loan for the season, with City covering his wages, at the very least.
(16-08-2017, 20:23)Alouion Wrote: Can anyone out there understand the transfer values of players any more? Apparently Van Dyck is £60m, Deeney £32m, Walker is £50m yet Johnny Evans attracts bids of £10m from Leicester and now £18m from City.
This for a player who defended so well for us last year and helped get us to 8th for most of the season. This for a player who is our club captain and has played 198 times for Manchester United. This for a player who will almost certainly become their fist choice at City because Kompany is injury-prone, £40m Mangala is accident prone, and £50m Stone can't defend for toffee. If they offered a straight swap for Stones we would be conned and they paid £50m for him.
Are they taking us for mugs?
I would love to think that Evans would be able to see that Pulis and Albion have been good for him and his career and he is a better player than when he left United and stay. However with him living in the area and the prospect of Champions League it is bound to influence his decision.
Personally I don't want him to leave at all but if, as I suspect, he is to leave, can we dispense with the comedy bids and start the negotiations at £50m?
I think it's partly about potential, but mainly about marketing.
Mangala was young when City signed him, this added a lot to his price.
Stone was young and English. For some reason, this is the dream formula and doubles the price at least. The fact he makes loads of mistakes is even better, because for some reason, that means he plays 'total football'.
Evans on the other hand is the wrong side of 28, Northern Irish (which for some reason is much less marketable than English), doesn't do anything ridiculous off the pitch, behaves normally and is balding. This is a player who gets priced on ability alone.
If he grew a David Luiz type hairstyle, we'd be talking about £60m...
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Beefy 1965 - 16-08-2017
Wait for the chadli bid now
Everton have just signed Sigurdsson from Swansea
RE: WBA 2017/18 Summer Transfer Window (10 August) - Arcane Astral Aeons - 16-08-2017
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40954441
very bizzare
please note the wording
RIVALS
since when have we ever been rival to citeh