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RE: CHEXIT - Dancingwilldoit - 24-04-2018
So far Allen wouldn't talk to a Swedish offer of £10mill, a Chinese offer for similar but good old Reg can have it for a fiver providing Allen keeps the Stadium and corporate hospitality then rents it back out at a rate that will recover him everything he is owed plus a lot more besides. Lovely Jubley!
RE: CHEXIT - Devongone - 24-04-2018
The truth is that if we go on under Allen we are going to have to find ways of working round his randomness. First there's no money, then we can afford a big wage for O'Grady, BUT O'Grady turns out to be pants and we're contracted to him for two years. With DA up top we'd have to find ways to promotion despite him .......... which isn't actually impossible, but it wouldn't help.
Luton, Lincoln, Oxford, Wrexham, Aldershot, Hartlepool, Tranmere, Orient, Torquay, Stockport, York, Darlington, Boston, Kidderminster, Chester are just some of those who would testify to how difficult climbing back into the EFL can be. Matt is right that money matters, but organisation behind the scenes seems to me to be a vital point too. If Reg were even vaguely consistent in his dealings and avoided plundering every transfer or parachute payment then there would be some scope for Blue's natural optimism. Macclesfield are struggling financially, they have a team which has way out-performed its individual components, and they've won the league nicely. They don't have a goalscorer amongst the top 13 names listed. They scored only 65 goals in 45 games against Fylde's 82. They aren't unimaginably good.
The trouble is only one place brings automatic promotion and it looks a dog-fight between the next six in the playoffs and none of them really look to be very different in standard to Macclesfield. Dover are seventh but have several players I'd sign - Gallifuoco, for sure, Brundle and Pinnock both definite yeses, Nortey, Ilesanmi ....... not too dusty. Wrexham are tenth, Orient thirteenth, Hartlepool seventeenth. It is tough and all of them will want to beat us. BUT winning it IS possible, if you know your opponents, don't underestimate anybody and you know where to recruit and who to avoid.
If Bobs Board sets the standard then most of our fans have no realistic view of the size of the task facing the club or the steps needed IF the aim is a return to the EFL. On-field we have to carefully select players, most of whom should have non-league experience who are willing to commit themselves to the club and area. Skill matters, pace and athleticism are important and the physical aspect of the game has to be accepted. Teams play sophisticated formations and they aren't just crude kickers. Though some teams like Fylde can afford to hang on to good players and buy others, there are teams in dire financial straits for whom a modest offer for their best player will be looked at as covering the wage bill for months. There are opportunities out there.
RE: CHEXIT - spireitematt - 24-04-2018
Dev you should be head of recruitment with your knowledge of non-league.
RE: CHEXIT - spireitematt - 24-04-2018
Next manager I think could be someone like Gary Mills who got York City back into the Football League. Alan Devonshire has been at 3 Non-league clubs, Maidenhead United twice, seems to have done well in Non-League.
"Graham Smyth @GrahamSmyth
Ashley Carson says the consortium have until Friday to make a firm commitment. Deadline brought forward because club want to get on with managerial recruitment process and building for next season. If no commitment, club move on."
"Graham Smyth @GrahamSmyth
Fifteen applicants already. Five of which are non starters, foreign applicants including one from India."
First Carson said the consortium had until the last kick of the season for a deal to go through and now the goalposts have been moved to this Friday. What is going on?
RE: CHEXIT - themaclad - 24-04-2018
Commiserations lads
RE: CHEXIT - Dancingwilldoit - 24-04-2018
Gupta Gerem Backoop was the Indian guy who they rejected. His previous managerial experience wasn't deemed good enough.
RE: CHEXIT - spireitematt - 24-04-2018
Same night as getting relegated we've won the Derbyshire Senior Cup 1-0 away to Alfreton for the first time since 1937.
RE: CHEXIT - Devongone - 25-04-2018
My only gripe about us winning the Derbyshire Senior Cup was seeing Anyon in goal. If I was Dylan Parkin and had saved three penalties to get us there I'd be making plans to find a new club asap. That's a shame, I'm guessing a step up to reserve goalie next season would have been well within his capabilities.
Alfreton played eight of their first choices from Saturday's win over FC United if we need to gauge the level of our younger players' performances. Our youthful defence certainly deserves credit. It surely suggests that with a summer on their backs they will not be too far from challenging for places one level up in the Vanarama. Gozie and Binnom-Williams getting on the field is another positive for next season in my book, but not so thrilled about Sinnott ......... who can play and at the level we require, but in his last season at Halifax he played only 9 games was it - a smaller squad will make it difficult to carry a regular invalid, I just hope Gozie (who was pretty fit before we got hold of him) and JBW aren't slipping into that category too.
Though you think I know a lot about non-league it is really only because I'd always had some interest and in Danny's second season, with our club's organisation in such obvious chaos, I had one of my few perceptive moments and started finding out about teams and players at the level I thought we were heading for. If we stay down even for a couple of seasons I'm afraid you'll find you're like me! You'll know that our likely recruits will be from the tiers below us. You'll find yourself checking out Evo-stick results. You'll know that Liam Hearn of Basford United has scored even more than Jacob Hazel and that Frickley bagged six against Gresley on Saturday due to Gavin Allott not Jacob notching four. I recommend the Non-League Paper to you on Sunday mornings as a starting point.
Although we are now down it might be worth us getting 7-9 points in our last three games to get above Barnet. Sutton are in the play-offs. They are capable of winning them. If they do they've got a choice of digging up their pitch which cost their manager a mint, or refusing promotion and opting to step down a tier to National League South. How pissed will we feel if it turns out 23rd place equals safety if our monologue of gutless defeats is extended to our final three games?
RE: CHEXIT - spireitematt - 25-04-2018
After officially getting relegated last night, I didn't know that we were that hated. Rotherham, Mansfield fans and even some feminists would like to see us go bust.
RE: CHEXIT - Devongone - 25-04-2018
When Mansfield went down I was sorry. When they came back up I was glad. It wasn't good being the largest town in Europe without a railway station. There is only any point to rivalry when your rival can compete with you.
Rotherham, I felt sorry for with the state of their town, when they were marooned at the athletics track, and now that they have the ground with most ridiculous name in the universe. At least they now have lost the title of teenage unmarried mother capital of Europe. They turned out to be quite good at child abuse though.
Feminists, they're right. The Vanarama is bad, Ched Evans was much worse. We should publicly apologise.
Everybody has hated us since CheAterfield. Personally I'd have felt sorry for the fans of any other club in that position. One minute you're cheering on your team who are strolling away with their division playing good football, the next you find you've been spending your Saturdays in an episode of Crimewatch. Everything that can go wrong has in the last 20 years. I still hold David Elleray responsible. Any real football fan would have a place in their heart for a little club robbed of a Cup Final appearance in that way.