(02-10-2017, 13:31)Baggie_One Wrote: Fireymoooooose, i remember him from the 606 days. What a character !

(02-10-2017, 12:51)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:44)Sir Megson Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:05)Zinman Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 19:52)Sir Megson Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 19:27)Slick_Footwork Wrote: The other thing people have to remember is that a change of manager doesn't guarantee a better style.

Everyone talks like the football was great before Pulis, but it was absolutely dross under Irvine. At least under Pulis we are competitive at home, under Irvine we were dross to watch and weak.

There has been a lot of teams playing terrible, defensive football in the Premier League for the last 2 or 3 years and good football from anyone outside of the top 6 is the exception to the norm. I guess it's a coincidental time because we've just played Watford, but Marco Silva is the only new manager in the last 2 years I can remember coming in and playing football with a 'lesser' side.

I mean people give Bournemouth a lot of credit for good football, but when I watch them, I don't see it. Yes, they have a fair share of the ball, but they don't have players that excite you, beat a man, thread balls through. When we played them at home on the opening day they huffed and puffed but didn't create anything.

Swansea brought in Clement, who had been at all the big clubs and they are terrible to watch now. Southampton have had 2 foreign managers at in last 2 years, both successful abroad, but barely look like scoring. Boro were absolute dross last year with Karanka in charge, once a cracking player at Real Madrid. West Ham are just as boring as us under Bilic, who has spent a lot more money. Even Everton, having spent probably 4x the money that we have in the summer play with multiple defensive midfielders, no width, no pace and are absolutely shocking to watch.

Palace brought in De Boer, who was apparently a footballing coach and didn't score a goal in 5 games... Then they brought in another 'dinosaur' in Hodgson to try and save the day.

We need to be careful what we wish for. The grass isn't always greener.

The fact is, this is Premier League. It's a league where teams at the bottom defend for their lives, foreign manager or not. It's all about money, clubs couldn't care less about entertaining.

Another accurate description of the current state of the Premier League, especially your comments about Bournemouth. They were a fantastic side to watch in their promotion season but since their days in the PL they have become one of my least liked teams. Diving/Play acting to waste time and not the most entertaining football to watch either.

This poll and the reaction in general since the Watford game is a hideous overreaction. 

Conceding a last minute goal to scupper what would have been a good result is definitely annoying, however I don't recall calls for Pepe Mel's head after the 3-3 at home to Cardiff. His football was also shite to watch.

The comments in this thread are not a reaction to the Watford game, they're a reaction to 3 years of mind-numbing boredom of watching Albion under Pulis. I also don't agree with your comment re Pepe Mel - the results may well have been shite but most games I saw (and those were my pre-Pulis season ticket times) had at least some entertainment, even if some of it was of the comical variety. We scored goals and we conceded goals and, guess what, we stayed up.

Sorry but this is a reaction to the Watford game. If we'd have held on for 2-1, this thread and poll would not have been posted. 

Yesterday was also anything other than a boring game, although I'd probably be bored just watching the football via streams on a laptop as well. The point of going up the Albion isn't just about the 90 minutes on the pitch, it's the meeting up with friends, watching the early KO, having a drink and some banter. 

To be honest I cannot wait until the eventual day when Pulis does leave just the same as you; because he won't be here forever, however I'm not naive enough to think that just because we change the manager our style of football will improve.

Sir Megson,
THIS IS NOT A REACTION TO THE WATFORD GAME........I know because I wrote it, this is a reaction to most of Pulis' tenure. If you look back you will see I haven't really changed my opinion of the man and his soul destroying brand of Football. Even at 2-1 the game for us was hanging on for dear life after 23 minutes and Foster wasting time in the 1st half, let alone the 2nd half...............................That's the Pulis factor.

Do you go to games? And as for Bournemouth, Palace and other teams that others have mentioned......I don't care about the way they play, I care about the way West Bromwich Albion FC play and the fact is we are woeful.

No excuse for Pulis now as he has the players.......my hideous overreaction Poll isn't either, it's not hideous or an overreaction. You're not Fireymoose reincarnate are you?

The poll results at the minute say it all.......PULIS OUT

(02-10-2017, 13:57)Sir Megson Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 12:51)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:44)Sir Megson Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:05)Zinman Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 19:52)Sir Megson Wrote: Another accurate description of the current state of the Premier League, especially your comments about Bournemouth. They were a fantastic side to watch in their promotion season but since their days in the PL they have become one of my least liked teams. Diving/Play acting to waste time and not the most entertaining football to watch either.

This poll and the reaction in general since the Watford game is a hideous overreaction. 

Conceding a last minute goal to scupper what would have been a good result is definitely annoying, however I don't recall calls for Pepe Mel's head after the 3-3 at home to Cardiff. His football was also shite to watch.

The comments in this thread are not a reaction to the Watford game, they're a reaction to 3 years of mind-numbing boredom of watching Albion under Pulis. I also don't agree with your comment re Pepe Mel - the results may well have been shite but most games I saw (and those were my pre-Pulis season ticket times) had at least some entertainment, even if some of it was of the comical variety. We scored goals and we conceded goals and, guess what, we stayed up.

Sorry but this is a reaction to the Watford game. If we'd have held on for 2-1, this thread and poll would not have been posted. 

Yesterday was also anything other than a boring game, although I'd probably be bored just watching the football via streams on a laptop as well. The point of going up the Albion isn't just about the 90 minutes on the pitch, it's the meeting up with friends, watching the early KO, having a drink and some banter. 

To be honest I cannot wait until the eventual day when Pulis does leave just the same as you; because he won't be here forever, however I'm not naive enough to think that just because we change the manager our style of football will improve.

Sir Megson,
THIS IS NOT A REACTION TO THE WATFORD GAME........I know because I wrote it, this is a reaction to most of Pulis' tenure. If you look back you will see I haven't really changed my opinion of the man and his soul destroying brand of Football. Even at 2-1 the game for us was hanging on for dear life after 23 minutes and Foster wasting time in the 1st half, let alone the 2nd half...............................That's the Pulis factor.

Do you go to games? And as for Bournemouth, Palace and other teams that others have mentioned......I don't care about the way they play, I care about the way West Bromwich Albion FC play and the fact is we are woeful.

No excuse for Pulis now as he has the players.......my hideous overreaction Poll isn't either, it's not hideous or an overreaction. You're not Fireymoose reincarnate are you?

The poll results at the minute say it all.......PULIS OUT

Yes. Home and away. Have only missed Arsenal away so far this season due to it being a Monday night game in London and didn't fancy it on a work night. Probably been to more games recently than most on here, not that that gives me any more of a valid opinion than anyone else.

(02-10-2017, 14:16)Beefy 1965 Wrote: I can understand where everyone is coming from
I feel now though quite frankly I have had enough,
But whichever side of the fence you're sitting this is what TP does,
It happened at Stoke and It's happening here,
He is completely splitting the fans in two and this is the biggest shame,
We fans are the soul of the club and love him or hate him he is dividing this soul,
That IMO should be enough to say TP your time is up  

(02-10-2017, 14:13)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 13:57)Sir Megson Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 12:51)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:44)Sir Megson Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:05)Zinman Wrote: The comments in this thread are not a reaction to the Watford game, they're a reaction to 3 years of mind-numbing boredom of watching Albion under Pulis. I also don't agree with your comment re Pepe Mel - the results may well have been shite but most games I saw (and those were my pre-Pulis season ticket times) had at least some entertainment, even if some of it was of the comical variety. We scored goals and we conceded goals and, guess what, we stayed up.

Sorry but this is a reaction to the Watford game. If we'd have held on for 2-1, this thread and poll would not have been posted. 

Yesterday was also anything other than a boring game, although I'd probably be bored just watching the football via streams on a laptop as well. The point of going up the Albion isn't just about the 90 minutes on the pitch, it's the meeting up with friends, watching the early KO, having a drink and some banter. 

To be honest I cannot wait until the eventual day when Pulis does leave just the same as you; because he won't be here forever, however I'm not naive enough to think that just because we change the manager our style of football will improve.

Sir Megson,
THIS IS NOT A REACTION TO THE WATFORD GAME........I know because I wrote it, this is a reaction to most of Pulis' tenure. If you look back you will see I haven't really changed my opinion of the man and his soul destroying brand of Football. Even at 2-1 the game for us was hanging on for dear life after 23 minutes and Foster wasting time in the 1st half, let alone the 2nd half...............................That's the Pulis factor.

Do you go to games? And as for Bournemouth, Palace and other teams that others have mentioned......I don't care about the way they play, I care about the way West Bromwich Albion FC play and the fact is we are woeful.

No excuse for Pulis now as he has the players.......my hideous overreaction Poll isn't either, it's not hideous or an overreaction. You're not Fireymoose reincarnate are you?

The poll results at the minute say it all.......PULIS OUT

Yes. Home and away. Have only missed Arsenal away so far this season due to it being a Monday night game in London and didn't fancy it on a work night. Probably been to more games recently than most on here, not that that gives me any more of a valid opinion than anyone else.

Good for you then mate, wish I had your will power.

(02-10-2017, 14:21)Sir Megson Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 14:13)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 13:57)Sir Megson Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 12:51)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(01-10-2017, 20:44)Sir Megson Wrote: Sorry but this is a reaction to the Watford game. If we'd have held on for 2-1, this thread and poll would not have been posted. 

Yesterday was also anything other than a boring game, although I'd probably be bored just watching the football via streams on a laptop as well. The point of going up the Albion isn't just about the 90 minutes on the pitch, it's the meeting up with friends, watching the early KO, having a drink and some banter. 

To be honest I cannot wait until the eventual day when Pulis does leave just the same as you; because he won't be here forever, however I'm not naive enough to think that just because we change the manager our style of football will improve.

Sir Megson,
THIS IS NOT A REACTION TO THE WATFORD GAME........I know because I wrote it, this is a reaction to most of Pulis' tenure. If you look back you will see I haven't really changed my opinion of the man and his soul destroying brand of Football. Even at 2-1 the game for us was hanging on for dear life after 23 minutes and Foster wasting time in the 1st half, let alone the 2nd half...............................That's the Pulis factor.

Do you go to games? And as for Bournemouth, Palace and other teams that others have mentioned......I don't care about the way they play, I care about the way West Bromwich Albion FC play and the fact is we are woeful.

No excuse for Pulis now as he has the players.......my hideous overreaction Poll isn't either, it's not hideous or an overreaction. You're not Fireymoose reincarnate are you?

The poll results at the minute say it all.......PULIS OUT

Yes. Home and away. Have only missed Arsenal away so far this season due to it being a Monday night game in London and didn't fancy it on a work night. Probably been to more games recently than most on here, not that that gives me any more of a valid opinion than anyone else.

Good for you then mate, wish I had your will power.

Absolutely. Been some absolute shockers the past 3 years under Pulis but the Albion is in the blood and it would take more than him to stop me from going both home and away.

With a bad run of losses I think he's got as much chance of the sack as any other manager. If style of play was a sackable offence he'd have gone after his first season. The truth is that players have more power than fans do these days, and even if attendances did drop any further the board wouldn't give two shits. Pittance in comparison to the TV money.

The only thing that would force them to change things is flirting with relegation and deep down we all know this. I'm not saying it's right, but it's an honest realistic interpretation of where we are now as a football club. Heard none of this after winning the first two of the season, and we arguably played worse football against Bournemouth and Burnley and won, than we did against City in the cup and Arsenal in the league and lost.

(02-10-2017, 14:16)Beefy 1965 Wrote: I can understand where everyone is coming from
I feel now though quite frankly I have had enough,
But whichever side of the fence you're sitting this is what TP does,
It happened at Stoke and It's happening here,
He is completely splitting the fans in two and this is the biggest shame,
We fans are the soul of the club and love him or hate him he is dividing this soul,
That IMO should be enough to say TP your time is up  

(02-10-2017, 16:45)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 14:21)Sir Megson Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 14:13)Worldclassalbion Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 13:57)Sir Megson Wrote:

(02-10-2017, 12:51)Worldclassalbion Wrote: Sir Megson,
THIS IS NOT A REACTION TO THE WATFORD GAME........I know because I wrote it, this is a reaction to most of Pulis' tenure. If you look back you will see I haven't really changed my opinion of the man and his soul destroying brand of Football. Even at 2-1 the game for us was hanging on for dear life after 23 minutes and Foster wasting time in the 1st half, let alone the 2nd half...............................That's the Pulis factor.

Do you go to games? And as for Bournemouth, Palace and other teams that others have mentioned......I don't care about the way they play, I care about the way West Bromwich Albion FC play and the fact is we are woeful.

No excuse for Pulis now as he has the players.......my hideous overreaction Poll isn't either, it's not hideous or an overreaction. You're not Fireymoose reincarnate are you?

The poll results at the minute say it all.......PULIS OUT

Yes. Home and away. Have only missed Arsenal away so far this season due to it being a Monday night game in London and didn't fancy it on a work night. Probably been to more games recently than most on here, not that that gives me any more of a valid opinion than anyone else.

Good for you then mate, wish I had your will power.

Absolutely. Been some absolute shockers the past 3 years under Pulis but the Albion is in the blood and it would take more than him to stop me from going both home and away.

With a bad run of losses I think he's got as much chance of the sack as any other manager. If style of play was a sackable offence he'd have gone after his first season. The truth is that players have more power than fans do these days, and even if attendances did drop any further the board wouldn't give two shits. Pittance in comparison to the TV money.

The only thing that would force them to change things is flirting with relegation and deep down we all know this. I'm not saying it's right, but it's an honest realistic interpretation of where we are now as a football club. Heard none of this after winning the first two of the season, and we arguably played worse football against Bournemouth and Burnley and won, than we did against City in the cup and Arsenal in the league and lost.

I think if attendances keep dropping and there are more and more empty seats I believe the new owner and board would definitely give a shit and find that a tad embarrassing despite the fact the main money comes from elsewhere.

Anyway we will have to agree to disagree, I want him far away from our club and never to be seen again, you don't at this moment in time.