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RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Statesideowl - 22-03-2024
I agree, it's just another reason to fall out of love with the game. It's pretty much sewn up and rigged now. At times it's blatantly obvious yet written off as 'incompetence'
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Imre varadi - 22-03-2024
Sunderland are looking at DR as a potential new coach . Let's face it if they come in for him.hes gone and I don't blame him !
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Statesideowl - 22-03-2024
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68639682
Yep... Rohl will leave for a Club with good infrastructure.
Speaking of which, Ipswich have secured more investment to continue rebuilding the Club
It's heartbreaking to watch clubs around us, even bloody Wrexham investing and rebuilding their clubs the right way, listening to the right people.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68635985
Leicester going down a similar road to us by taking legal action against the EFL and EPL.
I wonder if they're now going to be on the receiving end of ceaseless dodgy officiating going against them.
Keep your eyes on this one.
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Statesideowl - 23-03-2024
This is from a disillusioned Forest fan..
"And so the circus that is the Premier League continues, with the news this evening that Leicester City will face an inevitable points penalty ahead of a potential return to the top flight due to breaching PSR.
Whilst the argument from much of the mainstream media has been to blame Forest, Everton and now Leicester for breaking the sustainability rules, far fewer are actually looking at what the rules are, and especially the impact on sides who are promoted from the EFL…
Those clubs, such as mine, who escaped the Championship without the assistance of huge relegation parachute payments, and with half a side made up of loanees, had a momentous gap to bridge. Not only were the spending limits Forest were working to far less than established EPL clubs, due to two of the three years of the accountancy period this latest breach was applied for with us in the championship, but they had half a squad and very little time to construct a side which could be realistically competitive, due to their route up through the end of season play offs.
Miraculously, Steve Cooper (who the club never should have sacked and will regret doing so) and the side pulled off the improbable, and kept the Reds up with a game to spare….Forest went again, investing in further quality to not only survive but to compete in the best league in the world. Granted, the number of players brought in was unnecessarily excessive, and a number of the players brought in in during the last three transfer windows have been failures, validating to a point the remarks about Forest leading to their own downfall, the rules have clearly shown that having ambition, and not meekly going down as Norwich did a few years ago, being thankful for our season in the limelight and then pissing off back to the championship, is not encouraged, and actually the exact opposite is sought.
Sport, at any level, is about competition. It is special in our society as time and again over history it teaches us that hard work, drive, commitment and skill can eclipse societal barriers, where those on the bottom rung can rise up and defy the odds, whether it be Wimbledons Crazy Gang of overcoming the seemingly unbeatable Scousers, Leicesters improbable rise to the title, or of course that unfashionable team from these parts who won back to back European Cups, the magic of sport, and of football, is that these things can be achieved, where the playing field is levelled, where yes, some will always have more than others, but the rules do not blatantly hamstring others for the benefit of the few, where the doors slammed on even considering the top 6 before a ball is kicked, and even if the top 6 is achieved, the players who got you there will soon be taken away to those ‘established’ big six sides, which ensures your next campaign will be significantly less successful, and by definition, the normal order will resume.
I fell in love with this game when I was 8 years old, it gripped me immediately, and I just wanted to see more and more of it…and I have been lucky to do so. I am proud to be associated with a club with rich history, like so many people are with their clubs all over the country, however the Premier League, in collusion with those sides that sought to break away from the league to join a ‘Super League’, have sought to pull up the drawbridge, to deny clubs the ability to do what they have all done in the past (spend the vast wealth of their owners to achieve success), to replicate an American model at the summit of the EPL, where the top six clubs sit every season, with all the revenue it brings, whilst everyone else burns, is grateful for survival or the crumbs of a promotion, knowing that the following season, relegation and all that comes with it may well come knocking, and the very best that can be hoped for is mid table mediocrity.
Football has been polluted by greed, the drive for more power, more money and more influence. The game created and loved by the masses has been stolen and ruined by the rich, and the fact we may have a situation created where the final league table maybe decided by independent appeals panels 5 days after the end of the season, puts a very large and bitter cherry on top of a already shitty cake made up of VAR, Man City and Chelsea’s free passes, Man Utd’s £700m debt and Spurs’s continued escape of sanctions despite using illegal agents on multiple occasions.
I no longer recognise the game, and find it increasingly difficult to stomach. My venture to the lower leagues has not dimished my love for the club I was given by my dad as a right of passage, that remains, what has gone is my belief that the game I am watching is no longer fair, the level playing field long gone, in a big cloud of TV money. There is no chance of ever challenging for the title, or any of the major cup competitions, even the league cup is out of reach, and we are destined to watch Chelsea v Liverpool, and variants that are shared amongst the top 6 sides, forever more…like a mini super league by stealth, and whilst the cash rolls in, the powers that run the game will continue to fiddle with it, further ensuring the big 6 maximise the income for the league, and by definition their own clubs….seriously when we talk about memorable moments in the game, it isn’t Liverpool winning yet another league cup, or Man City steamrolling another hapless outfit on a final, it’s where the underdog gets one over on the so called big side….its Laurie Sanchez, Keith Houchen, Ronnie Radford and Ian Porterfield…it’s Peter Withe at the far post, it’s Robbo against Keenan’s Hamburg in Madrid, that’s what makes the game special, and why it is unique…it’s what is being lost rapidly and killing the game, and with it those special moments which make up the great patchwork of our memories and experiences of the sport.
I firmly believe we will never see achievements such as Leicester’s league title, Wimbledon’s FA Cup or Forest and Villa’s European successes ever again, that the hope of attaining such success will only be reserved for the biggest and the richest, and that the sport which enabled ordinary people to escape the restrictive rules placed on them by society, and dream that glory may be attainable, will just be a thing we wistfully look back on, when things were so much better.
Football existed long before 1992, and boy was it so much better…no one will ever convince me otherwise…"
COYR ⭐️⭐️?⚪️?
Nottingham Forest BBC Nottingham Sport
Taken from another site. Well worth a read.
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Imre varadi - 23-03-2024
Aparanlty England play today I won't be watching them but I will fling dogshit at them through the power of thought !!
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Owlkev71 - 23-03-2024
Chesterfield promoted back to the EFL, done with 5 games to spare.
The Big boys seem untouchable when it comes to Finance, despite most of them either being in debt or spending ridiculous amounts of money.
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Imre varadi - 23-03-2024
Well be playing them the season after next then whichever league there in .
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Maddix - 23-03-2024
(23-03-2024, 19:52)Imre varadi Wrote: Well be playing them the season after next then whichever league there in .
I'm more worried about Mansfield next season
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Statesideowl - 23-03-2024
We can all see it, across all leagues. The real fans see the absurd levels of corruption and conflict of interest which shouldn't even be an issue to begin with.
As the Forest fan said it's difficult to recognise the game anymore, the corruption which is visible every Saturday is destroying the soul of the working class game.
Many of us have enjoyed the rollercoaster highs and lows, mostly lows for us in recent years.
The future holds nothing but a flat line with the occasional dip for the majority of clubs until they all dissolve and we're all forced to watch the big six for entertainment.
Fking end stage capitalism.
RE: Thread to talk about football and wednesday in general - Imre varadi - 23-03-2024
Bungle records his first win in 7 games ...1-0 to the bungle 1-0 too the bungle 1-0 to the bungle 1-0 too the bungle !!!
The team Southgate has picked it's absaloute dog shit ..fling fling fling !!! Maguire ffs