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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 27-03-2017
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39399390
I'm reading more utter pish from a con of a UK PM just before she visits Nicola on her whistle stop tour of devolved nations. If the brexit vote had been unanimous it would possibly have been different but that is not the case and the more I listen to the triumphalist comments that still emanate from down south, the more I oppose these stupid, narrow-minded c#### even more!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - theo_luddite - 27-03-2017
Got their noses out of joint because one of the biggest contributors to the trough they have their noses in doesn't want to play ball anymore. So they are saying you can leave but it will still cost you the same amount to play in our pig sty because otherwise our big fat piggy noses won't get as much from the big fat piggy trough of hand outs.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 27-03-2017
(27-03-2017, 11:30)hibeejim21 Wrote: Interesting how now the EU are starting to make their position on negotiations clear. None of the tories evasive "keep our cards close to our chest" attitude when parliament questioned them on the matter.
The EUs chief negotiator says a distinct chance the UK will leave with no deal. The implications of a "no deal" Brexit are manifold,the UK would end up leaving the stage of the globalised world and the large trading blocs will pull the strings.
Do remember that if the UK left with no deal, apparently it would not, by law (based on a recent House of Lords report), pay a penny in exit money etc. I wouldn't put it past brexit Tory erses like Davis to actually opt for that and believing that was a smart arse move but in the long term 'keep your seat belt buckled' as the UK juggernaut gradually rolls over the cliff but hopefully Scotland will have already moved in an opposing, pragmatic direction to GTF away from these wasters!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 29-03-2017
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-39424391
And, as expected, Cruella finally 'presses the Brexit button' amid heated exchanges with the SNP! Listening to her parliamentary speech, it transpires what an absolute hypocrite she is!! Sharing Euro liberal values being uttered by a Tory UK PM alongside her right wing Tory cohorts - utter rhetorical claptrap that was rightly shouted down by many MPs within the parliamentary chamber!! Her reference to a unified Britain was mocked until order restored by the Speaker as they proceed to formally 'crash the UK bus' in the name of sovereignty and stopping that horrible immigration problem that they have down south instead of blaming their own govt for their ills!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 29-03-2017
That was bizarre. That speech basically sounded like she was recommending joining the EU
Idiots. That leaked document shows what a roasting we are going to get from the EU negotiators. They have all the cards in their favour,the UK is 3 per cent of their gdp. They can take a hit and still get that trade via the WTO.
Likely there will be a deal but it will be heavily weighted in favour of Brussels,and the ordinary joe in the UK will pick up the tab.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 29-03-2017
Yep! It's the way that some of 'their media' and even people in the so called 'impartial bbc' have 'tarted it up' as the way to a better future for Great Britain - total claptrap and lets see what the 'real negative hit' on our economy is gonna be!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 29-03-2017
merkel just making it clear there that its a massive NO to trade deal talks before our exit is negotiated. Great,we are heading for years of uncertainty now.
I hope the brexiters on here noted dave "dunno" davis admitting that EU migration will not necessarily reduce and may even go up some years.
Duped....
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 30-03-2017
Listening to Lord Heseltine and a classic comment re the eventual 'deal' with the EU - They will negotiate a deal but it will be a deal that will be substantially less than the current one and our strength of power will be degraded beyond anything you've ever seen'! Strong words indeed and he is adamant in continuing the fight in parliament on behalf of the 48% of the British voting 'remain' population whose views, in his opinion, have been totally ignored in the process.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 30-03-2017
(30-03-2017, 00:21)0762 Wrote: Listening to Lord Heseltine and a classic comment re the eventual 'deal' with the EU - They will negotiate a deal but it will be a deal that will be substantially less than the current one and our strength of power will be degraded beyond anything you've ever seen'! Strong words indeed and he is adamant in continuing the fight in parliament on behalf of the 48% of the British voting 'remain' population whose views, in his opinion, have been totally ignored in the process.
He made a good point last night about how people have forgotten the state of europe and the UK in the late 40s/50s. We were all safer in the EU and had a better chance of a decent life in the EU. Of course it wasn't perfect but the alternative is going to be worse for many.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 30-03-2017
(29-03-2017, 18:24)hibeejim21 Wrote: merkel just making it clear there that its a massive NO to trade deal talks before our exit is negotiated. Great,we are heading for years of uncertainty now.
I hope the brexiters on here noted dave "dunno" davis admitting that EU migration will not necessarily reduce and may even go up some years.
Duped....
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/trade-talks-must-wait-until-after-eu-withdrawal-deal-hollande-tells-may/ar-BBz2Ctn?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
Hollande also endorsing Merkel's assertion that the formal UK exit comes first and nothing else will be discussed. IMO they hold the aces in their 'poker hand' and they'll delay the UK exit for years if they deem it necessary. It was interesting listening to the general view from Germany where lotsa people seem to be more interested in the Trump 'threat' than the UK's 'foolish exit' which they regard as 'puzzling' but not of great interest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39439554
Lastly, looking at the upcoming 'Great Repeal Bill', IMO we definitely have the wrong political group of people dealing with it and it proves what a myth was peddled by many notable brexiteers with the idea that brexit was not gonna be complex - all black n white, simple eh!
it is absolutely complex and this specific plan is gonna cause huge debates, arguments and infighting - you aint seen nothing yet in this disunited Britain! Also lotsa opps for mischief making on the opposition benches!