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RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - 0762 - 20-04-2017
Also add the Tory 'proof of rape' child benefit for a 3rd child that has 'caused a political storm' in Scotland. Nothing is beyond the shameless behaviour, values and policies of this particular toxic political party and it is unsurprising to most Scots who are well primed in sussing out the real crass political values of the Tories and their hangers on!
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - hibeejim21 - 21-04-2017
(20-04-2017, 21:29)spireitematt Wrote:(20-04-2017, 19:23)St Charles Owl Wrote:(20-04-2017, 19:06)hibeejim21 Wrote: I think it was noticeable how much more relaxed and effective corbyn was on the "campaign trail" and he answered questions well unlike cruella who is highly evasive and preparing to let the media do her job for her.
Corbyn actually understands the challenges facing people better than may,I just dont think he is a gifted enough politician to cut through the bullshit and effect change and get middle ground voters behind him.
I still cant help but like him though.
We all liked Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock etc back in the day but they proved to be unelectable in a General Election, and I think Corbyn falls into that same category.
What is this election going to focus on though, for me it will center around Brexit, that will dominate the topics covered and while it might play well for Corbyn to focus on the NHS or education, those topics are not going to give him the headlines he will need to make a big enough impact. Does anyone think that Labour should come out as the party that will repeal Brexit and keep the UK in the EU?? 48% of the voters in that referendum wanted to stay in, I am sure with what we know now it might be higher than that, could they get the votes they need by making that their main manifesto pledge??
Labour are going to focus on issues like the NHS, education, lack of housing etc, while the Lib Dems are going to run on an anti-Brexit campaign and they will be hoping to get votes off the electorate who are Pro EU. The Tories are going to run on pushing through with Brexit finish what they started thing which is pretty worrying because if they get a big majority they may try and push other things through as well which could make them very very unpopular. The SNP are going to run on Indy 2 and anti-Brexit. UKIP are pretty much finished.
We've had 7 years of a Tory Government and I don't understand how anyone can vote for them after what they've done. Bedroom Tax, millions using foodbanks, NHS in crisis, no job security, its only a few weeks they tried to screw the self employed over.
Yup,and you just know she will win with a bigger majority.
When these people start moaning about the NHS,and no care for their elderly relatives and low wages they are getting zero sympathy from me. xxxx them.
"We all liked Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock etc back in the day but they proved to be unelectable in a General Election"
That's not how I remember it and sadly I am old enough to.
These men were ridiculed and vilified in the press and were genuinely unpopular with large swathes of England.
In fact England and centre left politics are relative strangers,they have hardly ever voted for it.
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - 0762 - 21-04-2017
It's what I've continually harked on about for a very long time - Scottish society and culture are vastly different from the degraded English society and culture that is self-evident in many parts of the country!! It still baffles me how these irrational people even get close to voting for a toxic Tory brand that has damaged our disunited Kingdom beyond belief and they have the cheek to blame the EU - a f###### joke and a con!!
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - hibeejim21 - 21-04-2017
Its noticeable how much more confident corbyn is out there campaigning as opposed to the commons. He's putting good policies out there and trying to engage with the electorate.
But when you actually hear the public respond they just spout what the Mail, the Sun, the Telegraph, the Guardian and the Mirror tell them to think. He has no chance.
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - Devongone - 21-04-2017
There's a move down here in the South West by The Greens not to run in certain seats in order to direct the anti-Tory vote in one direction.
That would win Labour a Plymouth seat and the Lib Dems a couple of Cornish ones - in return the Greens might ask for the others to step aside in my constituency, Totnes. It is safe Tory country at the moment but the Greens are big in the town itself and would almost certainly win if Lib Dems and Labour stood aside for them. The only downside of such machinations is we would lose our MP, a former GP who is the only sensible Tory voice on the NHS ..........
Corbyn is fine, not a natural leader, but his beliefs are genuine (which is why two issues rip him apart - nuclear disarmament and the EU - both of which he has campaigned against for years like his mentor Tony Benn).
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - spireitematt - 24-04-2017
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/politics/2017/04/24/stay-off-my-lawn-prime-minister-local-unimpressed-as-theresa-may-targets-black-country/
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - 0762 - 25-04-2017
Get off my lawn ha ha ha!! Priceless! But the guy was right re the employment of the usual fake info that is effectively used as 'scare tactics' by shameless politicians like May!! They've done it before and they know there are lots n lots of naïve voters who will be duped by their usual rhetorical shit and innuendo! These people never change but it would be nice to see the majority of the electorate 'getting wise' to this kinda shit that politicians believe they can 'get away with'!!
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - hibeejim21 - 26-04-2017
Tory bastards romping it.
Independence is our only hope.
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - St Charles Owl - 26-04-2017
At this stage I cannot see any party getting close to the Tories!! The Labour party are in a mess with a leader who has a good heart but is not PM material and the Lib Dems are just vanilla at best!!! Maybe what the UK needs is a party like the one winning in France, not left or right wing overall but a party that picks the best of both sides of the aisle but something needs to be done to shake up the established order.
RE: Cruella calls a General Election for June!! Tory chancers at work again!!!! - hibeejim21 - 26-04-2017
The media are doing everything to cement a tory landslide.
Only scotlands independence can bring proper social democratic politics.
A may win seals independence