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RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Dancingwilldoit - 14-03-2017

It honestly makes no difference to me. Quite simply I don't want him to stay. In 5 months time he will have brought in his own backroom staff and a new team and it will be more costly to terminate his contract and get rid of the other hangers on. I have no confidence whatsoever that he will take us anywhere other than the lower reaches of Lge 2 or even worse. I really do hope I am wrong but I cant see it.
For me Humphries and Evatt would be my ideal management team.


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Devongone - 14-03-2017

Danny looked unhappy - I imagine that was because he cared about Chesterfield (he always did and probably still does!) and the results he was achieving. He tried different tactical set-ups and changed the team. He made mistakes - all managers do, but you have to remember that we went into this season as one of the RELEGATION favourites. That was because we'd been poor the season before and we hadn't invested in the team in a way that made anyone outside our keenest supporters think we could succeed. We weren't a Barnsley who were expected to challenge for promotion and slumped to the bottom of the league. When Danny came in it wasn't just a matter of getting good players to go out on the pitch and do it right. Keeping us up was a fight and if he had stayed I'd guess at best we'd be battling it out with Oldham and Bury now.

A new manager comes with expectations, even the worst of them usually boosts results for a couple of weeks. Caldwell was either desperate, or a fool to take the job. Instead of taking measures to inject spirit he brought in the most dispiriting set of temps anyone could imagine. It's like Dancing replacing several of his engineers with unpaid graduate interns - however clever they might be and become, they wouldn't be able to cope with the environment. It's no accident that the other team that has adopted the same strategy, Swindon, is also bombing out and is the only side we've beaten.

So far Caldwell has made his own football values irrelevant. The team he has created can only survive in games by defending, otherwise they'd be hammered. If you never shoot you're permanently under pressure and a passing game can't work, because you'll be pressurised into mistakes. The players are giving away the ball, big surprise, when you carry no punch the opposition takes advantage and swamps you.

Once we sacked Danny, my opinion was short of a miracle we were DOWN! My only hope was The Hump.

My expectations of Mr Caldwell weren't measurable in wins. I wanted to see us be in games, providing a threat going forward, creating a few ooohs and aaaahs, seeing some sign that, even out of defeats, something might be growing AND not being certain that forecasting 0-2 to any opposition would be pretty near the mark.

Those white things with the nets behind them, they're the goals. They're the whole point. When you see Forfar 5 East Fife 4 that's what those magic numbers are about. My message to Mr Caldwell would be , "you're here for the supporters - not the other way round!"


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Devongone - 14-03-2017

And just as a bonus ....... as Mr Caldwell is interested in scouting, here is a player I read about:-

ADAM LIDDLE - HARTLEY WINTNEY FC.

He is 17, scored on his debut. This is Step Five of the pyramid - Combined Counties and Hartley Wintney are runaway leaders.
They recently poached Adam from Frimley Green who only had him a short while and were raving about him. Not only does he score but he works all over the pitch ........
Now, it took the boy only about 20 minutes to score for Hartley Wintney and he did it with a volley which suggests no lack of confidence.
Step Five is no easy ride for a young boy. It's Staveley MW, Cleethorpes Town, North Shields level. Our own juniors would be hard-pressed to go straight into that level and impress with a team that is winning every week and has scored over 120 goals so far!
Some lower-league side, if not some Premiership side, might be smart enough to move quick and grab this boy before he makes himself too obvious through headlines in the Basingstoke Gazette.

Do you think someone should tell Mr Caldwell? Is he interested in that kind of thing?


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Dancingwilldoit - 14-03-2017

Mention the name Liddle and I doubt it. He shifted him on PDQ and oh how I bet he regrets it.


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Dancingwilldoit - 14-03-2017

See our reserves can at least score. Understand your mate German scored a couple today Dev.


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Devongone - 14-03-2017

You never learn to act without going on in front of an audience. And you won't make the leap to men's football if you stay with the kids and the stiffs.

Ricky German apparently didn't develop all that fast as a junior - he needed time. First team game time is so available and so important for these kids - he should play. Our results now only matter to Gary Caldwell's vanity .... Give Ricky the chance even to fail a couple of times if that is what it takes before we have that genuine centre forward he's going to become.

I don't think we can pack the team with young players, but we can feed a few in round the ones with experience.

By the way didn't Liddle go BEFORE Caldwell came? (And look what's happened to Carlisle ......) I thought Danny had the right idea with Liddle, he was a type we needed, but he recruited the wrong man.


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - bluepooch - 14-03-2017

If Liddle leaving is being blamed for our current league position then we are in a bad state .


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - spireitematt - 14-03-2017

So it was a goal fest 3-3.


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - bluepooch - 15-03-2017

Stay aways missed a treat or at least from a neutral point of view ,it really was a pulsating game especially second half .
We really did go for it and so did they .It was an uncharacteristic Caldwell performance for the simple reason we actually looked dangerous on numerous occasions .
They are a good attacking team as you would expect and we rode our luck but we had chances ourselves
SEB looks like a different player to the one who played under Wilson he was all over the place and scored a fine goal.Ill agree with Phil "without a shadow of a doubt "Tooley and give him my MOTM although there were a few contenders .
As usual though we were responsible for our own downfall giving the ball away in our own half on far too many occasions.
Ill also give a mention to the crowd who were terrific both Saturday and tonight ,even giving a rendition of Gary Caldwells blue and white army .
I was surprised by this and I think its down to the negative people staying away leaving the true fans (I think some call them happy clappers ) who support the team through thick and thin to try and lift the team .


RE: Goal Fest at the Proact - Dancingwilldoit - 15-03-2017

Nice dig Blue. I was quite happy sat with my torch watching my Delphiniums grow.
One good thing last night worthy of a cheer was Grimshaw relegated to the bench.
Injuries forced his hand to play 4-4-2. That suits our players better and is what we should have been doing over the last couple of weeks, not sticking with 3 at the back. Maybe the penny might drop with our manager.