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RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Worldclassalbion - 15-05-2019
(15-05-2019, 10:46)4evaabaggie Wrote: Worldclass, Steve Bruce, I would rather have Fiona Bruce, and she's a conservative mp.
Quality reply, love it(15-05-2019, 12:36)Onetruebaggie Wrote: I'd rather Robert the Bruce and I think he's dead?
COYB
Brilliant
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - St Charles Owl - 15-05-2019
I think Steve Bruce has enough of a challenge on his plate with us!!! Not sure he will want to take on a job with a team that are likely to have trouble putting out a first team with the number of loanees and out of contract players you guys have!! With the list of players "leaving" WBA this summer the need to get in a manager who can find players quickly and mould the team he wants is imperative, and its equally imperative that you appoint someone yesterday!!!
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - BaggieSteve - 16-05-2019
(15-05-2019, 19:20)St Charles Owl Wrote: I think Steve Bruce has enough of a challenge on his plate with us!!! Not sure he will want to take on a job with a team that are likely to have trouble putting out a first team with the number of loanees and out of contract players you guys have!! With the list of players "leaving" WBA this summer the need to get in a manager who can find players quickly and mould the team he wants is imperative, and its equally imperative that you appoint someone yesterday!!!
You're right, SCO, which makes our neglect of our academy players this year in favour of loanees all the more galling. I fully accept that Gayle and Holgate have been great successes for us, primarily because they've regularly played. However, I struggle to understand the logic behind Murphy, Montero, Tosin and, to some extent, Johansen, particularly when we do have talented young players available. As you say, a new manager appointment is critical for us but I hope to goodness that its not another old has-been who has been around the leagues and will fill that squad with his old "tried and tested" mates who are in their mid thirties, have absolutely no pace but work 'aaard (sorry TP, I stole your trademark reply) and whom he can "trust". The future of the club, I believe, has to be a balance between experience - which we have in abundance at present - and young, keen creative players, which we also have but who have been omitted in favour of the former. The loanees we would like to keep are likely to return to their respective clubs (Gayle, Holgate, possibly Johansen), the more able players will leave (Dawson, Gibbs, JRod, Phillips, Heghazi) and we may even lose one of our most talented youngsters in Harper. The great news is that we'll still have Robson-Kanu, Townsend and Bartley; I can hardly contain my excitement for the coming season.
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Baggie_One - 17-05-2019
I hear that our Tony is available again
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Beefy 1965 - 17-05-2019
Middlesbrough have parted with boss Tony Pulis, after this season's failure to win promotion to the Premier League.
The club announced that the 61-year-old's contract, which was reported to end this summer, would not be extended.
Pulis met with chairman Steve Gibson in the aftermath of the campaign in which the Teessiders finished a point outside the play-off places.
Pulis, who took over in December 2017, led Boro to the play-off semi-finals last season but lost to Aston Villa.
Missing out on promotion will have a knock-on effect on Middlesbrough's finances for 2019-20.
This season marked the end of their two-year run of parachute payments from the Premier League, following relegation in 2016-17.
Gibson said: "I'd like to thank Tony for his hard work and commitment over the past 18 months. He has been a joy to work with and a complete gentleman.
"Two years ago we invested heavily in the squad in terms of transfer fees and salaries in an attempt to regain our Premier League status. This happened before Tony's arrival.
"Over the past 18 months Tony has been proactive, not only in the ambition to win football matches and promotion to the Premier League, but also in addressing our financial position in order to comply and respect the Championship fair play criteria.
"He has ensured that the club is stable and strong for the future. He leaves us in excellent condition."
Boro fans disillusioned with style
Jordan Hugill
Jordan Hugill scored six goals in 37 games for a stuttering Boro attack
The former Stoke City, Crystal Palace and West Brom boss' initial appointment at the Riverside was greeted with optimism, thanks to his success in guiding the Potters into the Premier League and establishing them there.
However, his early success masked a disillusionment from sections of the support not wholly convinced by his tactics.
Boro had an enviable defensive record, conceding a joint-best low of 41 goals, but it was in attack that their promotion bid was hampered with just 49 goals - the lowest of any top-half side.
The pressure to reduce outgoings was eminent last summer, as the sale of star winger Adama Traore, forward Patrick Bamford and defender Ben Gibson pointed to a need to reduce the wage bill.
Although some money was reinvested in players, such as midfielder George Saville from Millwall and Bristol City defender Aden Flint, Pulis was largely forced to look to the loan market for additions.
There were highlights, such as free transfer Jon Mikel Obi and on-loan Everton midfielder Muhamed Besic, as well as the progress of young players such as Dael Fry and Lewis Wing.
However, others such as boyhood Boro fan Jordan Hugill - loaned from West Ham - were unable to supply the firepower needed.
Analysis
Paul Addison, sports editor at BBC Tees
Tony Pulis was a very divisive figure from his very first day as the Middlesbrough manager.
His functional style of play frustrated many fans, but they saw their side reach the play-offs in the 2017-18 season before surrendering to Aston Villa in the semi-finals.
Boro were in the top six for most of the 2018-19 campaign but a run of six successive defeats ultimately did for their promotion hopes and, in the end, for Pulis.
The atmosphere at home games became toxic on occasions when supporters voiced their displeasure by labelling Pulis' style as "Jurassic".
The manager insisted throughout his time at the Riverside that he had helped to "balance the books" and clear up some of the damage that he said had been done by his predecessor Garry Monk in terms of big money transfers and high wages.
Pulis told BBC Tees Sport after the final game against Rotherham United that finishing seventh was in many ways a bigger achievement than reaching the play-offs in the previous season - that, for many, was the last straw.
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Baggievicar - 17-05-2019
Not worried that he'll come back to the Shrine but it's another club in competition with us for decent managers, and I really don't know that I'd choose us over them at the moment if I were in the market.
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Salopbaggie - 17-05-2019
(17-05-2019, 11:54)Baggievicar Wrote: Not worried that he'll come back to the Shrine but it's another club in competition with us for decent managers, and I really don't know that I'd choose us over them at the moment if I were in the market.
Very true BV, while a potential manager would look at what is at a club already, their biggest question would be "what resources will be available to me, to make changes?". I suspect the answer coming from Boro would be considerably better than the message from the shrine.
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Blue Baggie - 17-05-2019
I can't see Hughton coming, he's getting a bit long in the tooth now IMO. Boro and Brighton will be more attractive then us. This hanging about will cost us again, we should have taken Jokanovic while we had a chance. Looks like it's a Shan and Appy joint venture. The normal cheap option.
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - Salopbaggie - 17-05-2019
(17-05-2019, 13:56)Phil Penn Wrote: I can't see Hughton coming, he's getting a bit long in the tooth now IMO. Boro and Brighton will be more attractive then us. This hanging about will cost us again, we should have taken Jokanovic while we had a chance. Looks like it's a Shan and Appy joint venture. The normal cheap option.
Somehow I can't see him being offered or taking the Brighton job
RE: Next WBA Manager - All News, Rumours & Speculation - WBA-Josh - 17-05-2019
Now that Achim Beierlorzer is taking over at Köln for next season, I’d like to see us go for Markus Anfang before Hamburg go in for him once they’ve probably sacked Hannes Wolf at the beginning of next week.
He’s a German Coach formerly of Holstein Kiel and Köln (Cologne). He took Holstein Kiel from the 3. Bundesliga to the 2. Bundesliga in his first season and then took them to 3rd place in his second season where they lost in the play-off to Wolfsburg. He then went to Köln last summer and tasked with rebuilding and achieving promotion, he got the club into the top 2 for most of the season (blip in February where they dropped down to 4th) scoring lots of goals. Köln very harshly sacked him a few weeks ago when they were 1 win from promotion because they didn’t win in 4 matches.
His teams style is rather unique. It’s a possession based game built into a 4141 formation where the wingers and two central midfielders play very high up the pitch (centre midfielders are practically number 10’s) with the full backs tucking inside to cover the centre midfield area making it a 2341 in possession. Out of possession it’s a high pressing game with a high defensive line.
UPDATE:
Hannes Wolf sacked by Hamburg. Sunday will be his final match.
Time to move Albion.