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RE: EU Referendum - spireitematt - 07-02-2018
(06-02-2018, 23:53)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: Problem is Matt we have turned down a road that has no U turn signs everywhere. If we change our minds now we will be not only the laughing stock of Europe but the rest of the world as well. Whatever will be will be.
We could still stay but it means putting it to the country again and having another referendum which could split and divide the country even further. We would be the laughing stock of Europe and the rest of the World. If we did stay they could impose new sanctions on us and could even announce a new ever closer Union which Juncker, Tusk, Verhordstadt are always going on about.
There going to punish us anyway in the transition period.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/06/brexit-eu-power-punish-uk-transition-period-sanctions
RE: EU Referendum - spireitematt - 06-03-2018
What's more likely Chesterfield staying in the football league or Brexit going through?
RE: EU Referendum - Dancingwilldoit - 06-03-2018
Neither
RE: EU Referendum - Devongone - 06-03-2018
I never thought Brexit would happen. So it's nice to think there's something more unlikely than Chesterfield staying up.
RE: EU Referendum - spireitematt - 06-03-2018
It looks more and more likely Brexit may not happen, but I think Chesterfield have a chance of staying up. (I hope)
Be interesting to see what will happen with Italy.
RE: EU Referendum - spireitematt - 08-03-2018
Isn't it weird how we've become so integrated into the European project over the last 40 years that it even has an aviation law about planes landing in Europe and if we don't get a deal with the EU then planes won't be allowed to land on European soil.
Also Michael O'Leary of Ryanair said the other day he will ground planes to Europe so it will make the British Government rethink on Brexit. He's now said that Ryanair will keep flying till 2021. Does that mean after 2021 all flights to EU countries will stop?
60% of our laws are EU influenced. So that means that the MPs we elect to Parliament make up 40% of our laws.
RE: EU Referendum - bluepooch - 08-03-2018
Michael O Leary throwing his dummy out again ,what is it about the Irish and Brexit ?.Oh well it'll mean an opportunity for another air company to take advantage.
RE: EU Referendum - Devongone - 09-03-2018
Mr Juncker, who I quite like really, summed up the EU over the Trump tariffs. He said, we can do stupid too. That attitude has informed their so-called Brexit negotiations too.
Personally I wouldn't mind a no-deal departure .......... but we are so afraid of it I'm sure we wouldn't take advantage of it.
Do we think the EU or O'Leary will stop the planes flying? Really?
RE: EU Referendum - Dancingwilldoit - 09-03-2018
Problem is Dev, when we first joined we cast aside most of our Commonwealth trading partners of many years, can you see them welcoming us back with open arms?
If Auld Trumpy introduces his tariffs and digs his heels in, who exactly do we trade with on the world stage? India, Brazil, Mexico all have import tariffs - Brazil is 20% so we wouldn't have a hope in hell of selling into them.
O'Leary O'Really will be rubbing his hands, flight after flight into Dublin and bus after bus over the border. Its manna from heaven for Ireland. Just truck everything in through there and which brave man is going to re-introduce a border and stop all the traffic?
This is going to roll on for years and years.
RE: EU Referendum - Devongone - 09-03-2018
Er we don't stop trading with EU countries just because we aren't in it you know. They can't manage without us just as we can't manage without them. They can't for instance set up new factories to work on the parts of unfinished goods that Britain currently makes within a year and a bit from a standing start. It ain't physically possible. O'Leary flying people to Dublin and bussing them back over the border. Yeah that's going to be such a winner ......... It's just more "we can do stupid too" re-name it Fantasy Ireland.
I don't think a hard border will work either, but that is what the EU is demanding Ireland has to want.
If hard borders all around the edge of the EU are so efficient, where for instance do the drug problems in major European cities arise? Are they coming over the Irish border and will they ....... or do they enter via sleepy mediterranean ports, fishing harbours and some major but badly regulated ports? We keep on hearing about the over two hundred entry points between Northern Ireland and Eire ......... nobody mentions the current thousands of miles of unpoliced coastline and back roads into the EU .......
All that is happening is both sides are inventing hypothetical scenarios to push each other's buttons and see what happens. The EU has one objective only - to prevent us leaving. Our side has one objective only - to stay in power. You, I, your firm we're just well-dressings, send us to Tideswell.