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RE: Christmas Gifts? - Devongone - 17-12-2018
Well Joe was poor last week ......... but he was clearly better than Stacey in the Final. (The nearest I get to Dance Expertise is I used to see quite a bit of dance training when I was administrator for an MA in Choreography, but they were more Merce Cunningham, Martha Graham, Twyla Tharp.)
I would have said Ashley's advantage had next to NOTHING to do with dance experience. She was far the best ATHLETE. She proved it in lifts. She was fitter, stronger and far more gymnastic. Now if that all came from the non-ballroom dancing she had done in the past then I agree she shouldn't have been there ......... but she finished every dance as strong as she started, neither Stacey, nor Joe could come near that.
But if Stacey or Joe get to win for being complete novices at the start, then surely the cat from Red Dwarf should have won for giving all the opposition 25 years except for Charles Venn ............ and quick improvement would be so much harder for them? Stacey was the girl next door and Joe was the boy. If Faye hadn't looked so elegant throughout she might have played the role too ...... but she always looked as though she'd materialised from Hollywood. I thought Joe would prove more popular than Stacey, but I was wrong. Both of them realised very early it was a popularity contest and played on that throughout - down to the costumes they wore. They've got clever agents.
I liked Faye's dad. He clearly thinks the sun shines out of her and loves her to bits. I'm an old sentimentalist but I'd have liked to have seen his face if she'd won. Stacey winning is fine, but if an alien asked me to explain what Strictly is a contest of, then I'd have to pass.
RE: Christmas Gifts? - spireitematt - 17-12-2018
Bloody Hell! I don't post for a few days and everyone is talking about Strictly.
The public didn't want Ashley or Faye to win because they were trained dancers, it would have been like putting a Grand National winning horse in a donkey race. People vote not on the dancers performances but who there favourites are. The Judges are pretty biased especially Craig.
RE: Christmas Gifts? - Devongone - 18-12-2018
Faye had done about ten minutes in a theatre school hadn't she? If you knew how crap theatre schools are in general you'd know the advantage was minimal. If you can't win because you've done something before then you wouldn't get celebrities to do it would you? Most of them have been in the entertainment business to become celebrities. My partner has sung and danced in West End Musicals and worked with choreographers when a director. Though he'd have a good appreciation of what was expected and how to learn a routine that would be a tiny advantage which would disappear entirely in the first couple of weeks of latin and ballroom.
If you don't want us to talk about Strictly maybe you should post more ............ we are on a major winning run after all ....... bet Craig Clay is shaking in his bootees.
RE: Christmas Gifts? - SaltergateBorn - 18-12-2018
As Mateo from the Solana would put it; "I have no idea about that which you are saying".
RE: Christmas Gifts? - Devongone - 19-12-2018
(18-12-2018, 18:48)SaltergateBorn Wrote: As Mateo from the Solana would put it; "I have no idea about that which you are saying".
RE: Christmas Gifts? - Dancingwilldoit - 19-12-2018
This thread is going everywhere. The team, Strictly or not, Matt being told to send out more Christmas Cards, Benidorm and I will raise the standard by throwing in the fact I am a lip reader and Corbyn actually said "Cupids cumming" or at least I think that's what I read.
RE: Christmas Gifts? - SaltergateBorn - 19-12-2018
You call bringing politics into the thread 'raising the standard', Dancing? Bloody hell!
RE: Christmas Gifts? - Devongone - 20-12-2018
I can't believe there is such a thing as a lip-reading dancer, it's a physical impossibility.
Benidorm? That it SGB? OMG! You admitted it! That's worse than Strictly.
If a woman in a jacket a couple of sizes too small turned up to yell at me every Wednesday I might do more than think "stupid woman". If you even suggest all women are stupid, that's both wrong and sexist, but when a woman regularly crosses the channel in order to prove her inability to grasp much of what is going on, then surely stupid simply becomes an adjective?
RE: Christmas Gifts? - SaltergateBorn - 20-12-2018
Dancing said it, Dev, not me; I admit nothing.
I live in the increasingly forlorn hope that our politicians will one day grow up; as yet, sadly, I see no sign of it at all. I have never heard such a load of puerile, sanctimonious, hysterical, hypocritical crap in all my life; and, believe me, I have heard more than a little of it over the years. Have our political ' leaders' ( I use the term loosely) nothing more important to be getting on with at the moment? (Rhetorical question; no answer required.) Although not a lip-reading dancer - I would almost certainly do myself a serious mischief if I even thought about trying to be - I think I can work out what Brother Corbyn said. However;
1. Teresa May is a woman. Indisputable, biological fact. (Even the Lib Dems have to accept that one.)
2. She said something that Brother Jezzer considered to be stupid. That is an opinion which he is entitled to hold and to express, whether accurate or not. (I wish to make it absolutely clear, m'lud, that I express no personal opinion myself on the matter.)
In view of the hysterical accusations about misogyny and God-knows-what-else that are now flying around on the basis of just two words, can I pose a question? If Teresa May had made a similar observation about any other non-specific member of the male gender (or even, perish the thought, the Shop Steward in Chief himself), would we now have the same accusations of sexism, misandry etc etc etc being thrown around?
Discuss.
RE: Christmas Gifts? - Dancingwilldoit - 20-12-2018
If she called Jezzer a prick nobody would complain because most people agree and she would go up massively in my estimation.
With 100 days to go before one of the biggest step this country has ever made (thanks Dev) our political masters piss off on a 17 day sabbatical. Excuse me but lets get our priorities right, why work when they can put their feet up for the day, have drink then drive under the influence whilst on the phone and claim somebody else was driving. Oh well at least she was a Christian.
In case you missed it.
'Biblical company'
In a WhatsApp group for Labour MPs, Onasanya compared her situation to that of Jesus Christ after his conviction.
As first reported in The Times, Onasanya wrote she was "in biblical company along with Joseph, Moses, Daniel and his three Hebrew friends, who were each found guilty by the courts of their day".
She went on to say "their greatest days of impact were on the other side of a guilty verdict" and added "of course this is equally true of Christ... and yet this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter in his story".
The MP will be sentenced, along with her brother Festus, on a date yet to be set.
I could say she should be crucified but being as she has a brother called Festus I think she should be acquitted.