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RE: Adam Reach - St Charles Owl - 22-10-2018
(22-10-2018, 21:23)peiowl Wrote:(22-10-2018, 19:32)Was Wereham Owl Wrote: A points deduction !!!... the EFL have threatened and threatened this and never enforced it .. but if they can , it WILL be SWFC they make an example of ..
Exactly. SCO is taking an extreme and improbable hypothetical position. The fans are not going to pay good money to see third rate players while the club sells talented ones. So, attendance and gate returns will go down. We've been down this road numerous times before.
At the last fan forum DC spoke about the likely possibility of a points deduction next season if we did not get our losses under control. This will be the first season where a points deduction is possible and so far we have done nowhere near enough to prevent that from happening, but selling one player for 15-20m would remove that possibility.
Football fans for generations have paid money at S6 to watch third rate players, all of us included, while we have watched the likes of Brunt, Whelan, and Di Canio being sold, but for the first time we need to sell someone to balance the books, not because we are short of money but because under the rules we have spent too much!!
I would suggest you listen to one of the podcasts on Wednesday Week that covered this topic in a lot of detail, and read up about the rules etc we are now being forced to adhere to. What the fans want, and what they are prepared to pay has nothing to do with this.
RE: Adam Reach - Imre varadi - 22-10-2018
well if thats the case who gives a xxxx the stupid xxxx has run us into the ground !
just shut up shop ill be happy with that ive realy had enough of the club its xxxx useless !!
RE: Adam Reach - St Charles Owl - 22-10-2018
(22-10-2018, 21:57)Imre varadi Wrote: well if thats the case who gives a xxxx the stupid xxxx has run us into the ground !
just shut up shop ill be happy with that ive realy had enough of the club its xxxx useless !!
He hasn't run us into the ground. He has spent significantly above the income the club generates to try to get promotion, which twice we got close to. He has spent the money, but we didn't succeed for a variety of reasons. Its the EFL rules that are causing this, not DCs willingness or not to spend money.
RE: Adam Reach - peiowl - 23-10-2018
You can add Quixall and Kay to that list of talented players the club has sold . Of course it matters what the supporters want. Without their support the club would go under. You’re right in saying I don’t understand the new rules but I do understand that most fans will interpret the sale of someone like Adam Reach as a breaking of faith and they’ll react with their pocketbooks.
RE: Adam Reach - St Charles Owl - 23-10-2018
(23-10-2018, 03:55)peiowl Wrote: You can add Quixall and Kay to that list of talented players the club has sold . Of course it matters what the supporters want. Without their support the club would go under. You’re right in saying I don’t understand the new rules but I do understand that most fans will interpret the sale of someone like Adam Reach as a breaking of faith and they’ll react with their pocketbooks.
When I say it doesn’t matter what the supporters want I am referring to the fact that this spending limit is being imposed on us by the EFL. It also currently doesn’t matter what DC wants to spend, he too is completely limited by the EFL spending limit. He has shown he is prepared to spend, he has shown that for the past two years but now he is in a position where he cannot spend anymore without the club getting sanctioned. I for one would prefer we keep the likes of Reach and Forestieri, but I would rather see them sold than us being under an extended transfer embargo or god forbid a points deduction.
Lets not forget, it took the club 4 months from April to August to convince the EFL that we even had a plan to get back inline with the rules before they would remove the embargo we were under and let us renew contracts and sign loan players in the summer!!! And before anyone say lets do a Wolves or Leicester or Bournemouth or QPR and buy promotion, the new P&S rules have stopped that as well. Now if you sign a player or players for huge transfer fees and big wages that will obviously put you over the limit the following season, then the EFL have the right to stop the sanctioning of the players registration, so even though you have signed a player, without the registration you cannot play him in any games!! Birmingham fell foul of this until they sorted their accounts with a player they could not play.
We can say all day that selling the likes of Reach shows no ambition, but it doesn’t matter what the ambition is, if you flout the rules you will pay a price and that will instantly kill any chance of achieving any ambition you have. I would rather we reset the numbers for this season and next, and then do what Forest, L**ds and Derby have done and have another 2 year go at it. Playing the youngsters is key to this as they are free players and if like the Blunts we unearth a gem like Brookes then we accept that he may be sold like Brookes was to balance the accounts. Until these rules are changed we along with other non-parachute clubs will be in the same position.
RE: Adam Reach - peiowl - 23-10-2018
Here's what JL says about a move for Reach. What move?
https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-why-jos-luhukay-does-not-fear-losing-owls-ace-adam-reach-in-january-1-9408364