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RE: Team to Start - spireitematt - 11-07-2017
(11-07-2017, 15:14)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: 4-3-3 isn't GC's format. All the friendlies have been 3-5-2. That rules out 3 forwards.
We know that but my preferred formations on football manager are 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3-2-1, 4-2-3-1 and 3-5-2 but the 2 wingers in a 3-5-2 formation have to track back while defending to create a 5-3-2.
RE: Team to Start - Devongone - 11-07-2017
Dancing, it's quite hard to pick a 3-5-2 formation when you give someone else first choice of an eleven and we only have about six midfielders in total ........... As a formation I've no objection to it but you have to have the players to make it work as last season proved.
Wiseman's favourite position is right back. So is McGinn's and Barry is a right wing back ........... You'd think that means a back three of Hird, Evatt and Maguire. That gives us two slow players at the back again. Left side we have Binnom-Williams, a left back and Donohue, left back, wing back, midfield on the left. Additionally Binnom-Williams is 6' 2" and could be a prime candidate for a back three. You could go for a back three of McGinn, Maguire and Binnom-Williams. Barry or Wiseman for right wing back, Donohue on the left. Evatt AND Hird could be out all together.
All I'm trying to show is that even limiting selections to the players we leave out of our potential first elevens it is pretty easy to produce teams of "also-rans" that might expose lots of weaknesses if the teams met. In one way it is very good that there is not much to choose between the players, but it is easy to be carried away by the notion your team looks good on paper. You have to think what an opposition might do. If our left-outs could run the chosen ones close, what might Steve Evans do? And there will be a difference between playing Sheffield FC and Forest Green Rovers!
RE: Team to Start - bluepooch - 11-07-2017
Sorry Dev didnt read your post properly.
How on earth are we going to find a place for Lou Reed ? ,he hasn't come here to sit on the bench .
RE: Team to Start - Dancingwilldoit - 12-07-2017
He should only play if he is better than our own players. I just hope we have learned the lesson of agreeing loans that are linked to a minimum number of appearances.
(11-07-2017, 17:03)Devongone Wrote: Dancing, it's quite hard to pick a 3-5-2 formation when you give someone else first choice of an eleven and we only have about six midfielders in total ........... As a formation I've no objection to it but you have to have the players to make it work as last season proved.
Wiseman's favourite position is right back. So is McGinn's and Barry is a right wing back ........... You'd think that means a back three of Hird, Evatt and Maguire. That gives us two slow players at the back again. Left side we have Binnom-Williams, a left back and Donohue, left back, wing back, midfield on the left. Additionally Binnom-Williams is 6' 2" and could be a prime candidate for a back three. You could go for a back three of McGinn, Maguire and Binnom-Williams. Barry or Wiseman for right wing back, Donohue on the left. Evatt AND Hird could be out all together.
All I'm trying to show is that even limiting selections to the players we leave out of our potential first elevens it is pretty easy to produce teams of "also-rans" that might expose lots of weaknesses if the teams met. In one way it is very good that there is not much to choose between the players, but it is easy to be carried away by the notion your team looks good on paper. You have to think what an opposition might do. If our left-outs could run the chosen ones close, what might Steve Evans do? And there will be a difference between playing Sheffield FC and Forest Green Rovers!
In the 3 friendlies we have lined up 3-5-2 and looked lightweight in midfield! I know we need the players to play it but that didn't change things last season its what GC wants to play. With the players we have I would personally go 4-3-3 but hey what do I know.
RE: Team to Start - Devongone - 13-07-2017
It looks more of a 4-3-3 squad to me too, or even 5-3-2 ........ otherwise why the duplication and triplication of defenders? But all managers always do unexpected stuff normal human beans wouldn't consider. I don't mind GC's tactical plan, indeed I think almost any formation CAN work, but the players are the ones who have to put it into effect, they have to believe in it, it has to suit them, and they have to make it work.
Last season that was all a massive step too far for everyone and even an experienced player like Sam Hird was holding up his hands to the bench asking what was supposed to be happening ..........
In friendlies the opposition is concentrating more on getting its own game together than disrupting you. A Mansfield or Forest Green will be disrupting any plan. A Port Vale will be getting the ball up front to a very dangerous striker like Tom Pope. Luton will have 10,000 very loyal fans behind them if they're doing even okay. Coventry might just get together a real life football team despite their owners. Swindon will want their reputation for playing a bit of football back .........
And we look hopefully at our ten signings and our youngsters and maybe ......... maybe it comes together. But we did only win 2 in 19. That happened. To be fair the manager has changed almost everything and everyone he had the power to change. But there's a lot of chaotic stuff still within the club. Doubts about the squad are nothing compared to the bigger picture.
RE: Team to Start - Dancingwilldoit - 16-07-2017
You need a new team Blue. Rowley out for some time.
RE: Team to Start - Devongone - 16-07-2017
You sound almost pleased Dancing!
The worrying thing judging by the reports is that in our two games against better opposition with CO'G up front we haven't looked too much like scoring. It sounds as though we were more potent for the few minutes German was on the field, which is also worrying as it doesn't seem as though the plan is to start him ........ Using him in that way is fair enough IF we have a potent threat before he gets on the field. (I'm not so much worried CO'G isn't good enough, but that our front-runners may be having to work too hard for possession with our weakness in midfield.)
RE: Team to Start - bluepooch - 16-07-2017
Yeah I think deep down Dancing ,like quite a few town fans, is hoping we fail so they dont have to eat any humble pie.
One thing ive read this morning is that Ricky G complained of 'pins and needles'.My goodness what is he made of ? ,he's a big strapping lad and I'm not going to say he's injury prone but I hope he is no namby pamby wuss !.
RE: Team to Start - Dancingwilldoit - 16-07-2017
You couldn't be more wrong. I want us to win the league and go up. I just don't think we will do it. We had a poor / non existent midfield that is now 2 players light due to pre season injuries. Unless we get some bodies in pdq we will be going nowhere.
If I need to eat humble pie so be it. Ive tasted it many times before and don't dislike the flavour. For all the signings we have made so far, for me the one area we needed strengthening we have failed. If that changes in the next 2 weeks nobody will be happier than me, but they should have been here weeks ago. As it is now it looks like loanees will fill the gaps. Anyone for tennis?
RE: Team to Start - bluepooch - 16-07-2017
Im still hoping for Semedo or someone of similar ilk