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RE: ERNIE MOSS - spireitematt - 30-12-2016
(30-12-2016, 01:20)St Charles Owl Wrote: While I have no doubt that blows to the head can cause major medical issues, I also think we have to be careful not to claim that football players only get dementia becuase they played football!! There are millions of people from all walks of life who are suffering from dementia of some kind, my father and sister-in-law among them, and as far as I know they have never suffered from blows to the head. So far the number of footballers who have been known to suffer from this seems to be no higher than the normal averages you would find in society. I think there certainly needs to be more research but I would rather see that money spent on research on dementia as a whole, not on football in particular.
Very true Charles. We all have to hope a cure is found.
RE: ERNIE MOSS - Devongone - 31-12-2016
Snoots I'm sure we know more things, have done more research and therefore become more capable of reaching conclusions, but I'm not sure we are actually capable of using that information scientifically or drawing correct conclusions.
Look at all the other stuff footballers did in their lives. They weren't lab rats kept in cages heading tiny footballs every day. Look at all the things their relative wealth gave them the opportunity to do more than the average man ..... how do we rule out these things or evaluate them?
Commonsense tells me heading a football repeatedly can't be good for you, equally is training to such a point of super-fitness that you are prey to regular injury and every illness, healthy? Do Olympic athletes outlive Winston Churchill?
What I'm struggling to say is apparently half the 1966 World Cup squad now suffer memory problems, that sounds terrible, but choose any group of men of that age and how many of them suffer similar problems? Once dementia becomes a news item we never get a baseline ..... so when a cross comes over I don't know whether to head it or just shout yours.
RE: ERNIE MOSS - St Charles Owl - 31-12-2016
The problem with dementia, and particualrly the cases potentially caused not by DNA but by blows to the head, we won't know the effects of the modern day game, with the lighter balls for another 30 years once the players of today retire and get older enough for the effects to show themselves. We still understand so little about the brain and its workings.
RE: ERNIE MOSS - Devongone - 02-01-2017
I agree St Charles. We know a lot, but you have to know a lot to understand how little that actually is .......
And much as I feel sorry for him and his family ...... if heading a football had been banned no one would ever have heard of Jeff Astle. And though he might be alive today his family and everything around them might never have existed.