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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 21-10-2021 Post Brexit, I'm just reading a really refreshing media article by an American writer named Umair Haque referring to the current position in the UK transforming Britain into an Orwellian society" where the regime that is governing the country has imposed this kinda society because of the catastrophic consequences of Brexit and the fact that nobody can talk about it. Brexit has made Britain a vastly poorer society and Brits can't live the way they used to. He slams the insinuation by the brexit Toerags that the wreckage of their society and future was about a "supply chain crisis" which he flatly refutes as untrue. The consequence of Johnson's hard brexit was tariffs, paperwork, red tape, bureaucracy and the fact is he didn't need to go that way and calling it an "oven ready deal" was another piece of downright political skulduggery. He refers to a great interview he did in The Netherlands with the Dutch Federation of Trade Unions where the general consensus that most workers wouldn't entertain a short-term British visa to help out the UK out of the shit they created themselves lol!! ![]() RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - theo_luddite - 21-10-2021 All fine and dandy but Bodgit and his heads-up-their-own-arses cabinet won't read it or if by shear chance they do, act on it. I'll take issue with one of his comments though. There are plenty of us that can see what is right under our noses, we just can't get anyone in the right place to speak up about it often enough. RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 22-10-2021 Yep! I empathise with the fact there are indeed millions n millions of people who oppose Brexit with many others joining up to oppose it now. And they are powerless to do anything other than voice as much criticism and opposition to the people who "made this mess" and are clearly carrying out their RW populist policies under this bogus banner of a "democratic right and will" of (some of) the people. Plus they own the press and media to back them and push on with their extreme political agenda to furnish their own Brexit ideology. And no constitution is attached to any Brit govt - a massive threat to the country/citizens when power is placed in the hands of such an extreme RW Britnat govt with Johnson and his Brexit cabal in charge!! RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 22-10-2021 Well just ask yourself why the greens aren't on TV every night getting a free platform from the broadcasters when they have about the same level of support as Farage and his crew did back in the day ? RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 22-10-2021 A classic example of this kinda suppression of healthy opposition is the bbc's fleeting exposure of critical comments by senior officials of Greenpeace (and others) re issues covering the Brit govt's pursuit of oil production off Shetland and their withdrawal of financial support for a flagship decarbonisation project in NE Scotland - note this was a project promised to come to fruition by the "better together" mob, Cameron et al, preceding the Scot referendum vote in 2014. Another Tory promise, one of many, "buried in the sand"!!! ![]() RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 10-11-2021 Just reading the Brit govt's own figures covering the post-Brexit economic benefit (not!!) to the country and not surprised to note that all of Johnson's new post-Brexit trade deals put together will have an economic benefit of just £3-£7 per person over the next 15 years. Analysis by academics at Sussex University Trade Policy Observatory have highlighted that the tiny economic boost, amounting to just 0.01%-0.02% of GDP, and less than 50p per person pa, is dwarfed by the economic hit from leaving the EU, which the govt estimates at 4% of GDP over the same period. It suggests the free trade agreements "barely scratch the surface" of the UK's challenge to make up the GDP lost by leaving the EU. Johnson boasted of the deals creating a "new dawn" and representing "global Britain at its best", but just two of the dozens of deals announced since the UK left the EU are expected to have any measurable economic impact at all. Official estimates from the Office for Budget Responsibility point to a Brexit loss of more than £1250 per person over the coming years - more than 178 times the most optimistic prediction for the benefits from the trade deals. That dream of a so-called "Brexit dividend" has turned into the economic nightmare that has been highlighted/predicted on SM boards like this one. I'd luv to force this financial detriment ONLY ON ALL THE STUPID PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THIS "LIE" AND COULDN'T SEE BEYOND THE OBSESSION ATTACHED TO THE IMMIGRATION LIE. IMO for a lotta these people, it's STILL about immigration!! And as long as Johnson keeps "kicking out foreigners" these voters don't give a f### what else he does - Brit nationalism gone mental!! RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 22-12-2021 I'm just reading some qualified comments from a Euro law expert, Prof M Dougan of the Uni of Liverpool, and they are damning re this Brit govt resorting to "Soviet -style" tactics/propaganda to dupe the population and try to hide the damage being caused by Brexit. He warned the only way that Johnson can make a success of leaving the EU is to "poison minds" into thinking the Europeans are the enemy. They didn't care about the costs from an economic or social point of view for the UK as a whole and didn't give a damn about NI. All expert predictions have been proven pretty much entirely correct. Johnson got his "hard Brexit", it's causing serious economic probs, albeit disguised by the impact of Covid and the effects of the pandemic, and the economic challenges of the pandemic itself. Economic probs will continue for a very long time. "It has also caused huge tension between the Brit govt and its former partners and allies". He also said an equally important factor was the way the Johnson regime was managing responsibility for what it has done by deploying "Trump-style" populist tactics. "You tell gigantic lies, not little ones as people catch those out"; he said, "You tell big fat juicy lies, you sell magic bean fantasies, the more magical, the better. When reality then keeps proving you wrong, you simply double down even harder and even further, deny responsibility or any culpability re the lie that was Brexit all along". How refreshing to read this confirmation to stuff we've been witnessing for a very long time. RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 22-12-2021 (22-12-2021, 20:20)0762 Wrote: I'm just reading some qualified comments from a Euro law expert, Prof M Dougan of the Uni of Liverpool, and they are damning re this Brit govt resorting to "Soviet -style" tactics/propaganda to dupe the population and try to hide the damage being caused by Brexit. He warned the only way that Johnson can make a success of leaving the EU is to "poison minds" into thinking the Europeans are the enemy. They didn't care about the costs from an economic or social point of view for the UK as a whole and didn't give a damn about NI. All expert predictions have been proven pretty much entirely correct. Johnson got his "hard Brexit", it's causing serious economic probs, albeit disguised by the impact of Covid and the effects of the pandemic, and the economic challenges of the pandemic itself. Economic probs will continue for a very long time. "It has also caused huge tension between the Brit govt and its former partners and allies". He also said an an equally important factor was the way the Johnson regime was managing responsibility for what it has done by deploying "Trump-style" populist tactics. "You tell gigantic lies, not little ones as people catch those out"; he said, "You tell big fat juicy lies, you sell magic bean fantasies, the more magical, the better. When reality then keeps proving you wrong, you simply double down even harder and even further, deny responsibility or any culpability re the lie that was Brexit all along". How refreshing to read this confirmation to stuff we've been witnessing for a very long time. You only need look at the deal the cheese queen brought back from Japan and hailed as a huge success. Its less than the existing one we had with the EU. A total con job. As a nation we will be poorer, unless you have oodles of cash offshore. RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 26-12-2021 https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/one-year-on-most-voters-say-brexit-has-gone-badly/ar-AAS8SM4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 Good too see a lotta people not duped by the spin/lies/propaganda peddled by this Brit govt. Still concerning that there are not lots more folk absolutely swelling this opinion! ![]() RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - theo_luddite - 26-12-2021 There's a lot that are still unwilling to accept they made a mistake voting like they did. The effects haven't hit them too hard personally yet, and they can still blame COVID and other things for the occasional understocked supermarket shelf. |