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RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - Was Wereham Owl - 28-12-2015
CC was outthought with his starting 11, simple fact , when we attack we look as good as anyone, we need to go for it from the start Towin, and the rotation system has it's merits , but not when the squad is as thin as ours, play the best 11 from the start and adjust accordingly, especially away from home , we could have had 3 points today because the are no better than us , and upfront I would say we were better than them, the 2nd half shows that , we pushed them back and had chances to equalize, if that had have been from the 1st minute I feel we could have got 3 points today, but not slating CC , he's a better football manager than I am.
Onwards and upwards ..
WAWAW
Hope you had a great awayday MS
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - St Charles Owl - 28-12-2015
(28-12-2015, 21:23)Was Wereham Owl Wrote: CC was outthought with his starting 11, simple fact , when we attack we look as good as anyone, we need to go for it from the start Towin, and the rotation system has it's merits , but not when the squad is as thin as ours, play the best 11 from the start and adjust accordingly, especially away from home , we could have had 3 points today because the are no better than us , and upfront I would say we were better than them, the 2nd half shows that , we pushed them back and had chances to equalize, if that had have been from the 1st minute I feel we could have got 3 points today, but not slating CC , he's a better football manager than I am.
Onwards and upwards ..
WAWAW
Hope you had a great awayday MS
Completely agree, as you say rotation has its benefits but when arguably our best midfield player is playing in defence due to injuries we have to go with as good as we have in midfield and up front. I can understand putting 5 in midfield but it has to be the right 5. As regards resting players such as FF or Pudil or even Wallace doesn't make sense to me. We have three subs to play, start the best 11, change and rest as the game goes on. After today we have no game until Saturday and then the starting 11 could have 10 days off and play the reserves against Fulham if they need a rest.
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - Towinjustonce - 28-12-2015
(28-12-2015, 21:23)Was Wereham Owl Wrote: CC was outthought with his starting 11, simple fact , when we attack we look as good as anyone, we need to go for it from the start Towin, and the rotation system has it's merits , but not when the squad is as thin as ours, play the best 11 from the start and adjust accordingly, especially away from home , we could have had 3 points today because the are no better than us , and upfront I would say we were better than them, the 2nd half shows that , we pushed them back and had chances to equalize, if that had have been from the 1st minute I feel we could have got 3 points today, but not slating CC , he's a better football manager than I am.i agree Was Wereham we do have to go for it from the start and I said earlier in the thread we should have gone out to attack them and let them worry about us and for us not to be thinking to far ahead. Take each game as it comes. The goal was from the two numpties in the full back spots being asleep and that cost us at least a point. I wouldn't say CC was out thought thou as if the full backs were doing there job then the goal doesn't go in.. It wasn't a spectacular goal so should of been easy to defend, we defend right we are still in the game and then who knows.
Onwards and upwards ..
WAWAW
Hope you had a great awayday MS
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - Owlkev71 - 28-12-2015
FF & CC agreed b4 the game that he wud only play 45 mins.
Wasn't surprised he made 6 changes after his comments after the Brum game.
Disappointed we lost but it isn't the end of the world just because we lost to the now league leaders, Boro haven't conceded a goal in 7 games now.
We are in a good position, exceding expectations I wud call it. The January transfer window should be interesting, do we go for promotion this season or stick with what we have and see how things pan out?
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - St Charles Owl - 28-12-2015
(28-12-2015, 22:30)Owlkev71 Wrote: FF & CC agreed b4 the game that he wud only play 45 mins.
Wasn't surprised he made 6 changes after his comments after the Brum game.
Disappointed we lost but it isn't the end of the world just because we lost to the now league leaders, Boro haven't conceded a goal in 7 games now.
We are in a good position, exceding expectations I wud call it. The January transfer window should be interesting, do we go for promotion this season or stick with what we have and see how things pan out?
Wasn't aware that it was agreed to leave FF off for 45 mins. We lost this game due to some poor defending in the first minute and in the end we put in a decent performance against away at the best team the division, so we shouldn't be too disappointed. The fact that we are shows how far we have come.
As for promotion, our best 11 will compete in every game and give us a chance to win them, but we are still a bit thin when you get past our best 14/15 players, but then we are probably no different there to any other team in the division. I would say though, as we are right in the mix for the playoffs we have to do whatever DC/CC think is needed to push us over the line. We have enough pieces in place to push next season with a few key additions in the summer, so why not give it a go this season first??
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - Imre varadi - 29-12-2015
IMRES NO BULLSHIT RATINGS BROUGHT TO YOU FROM SOME DRUNKEN HALF DRESSED KEYBOARD WARRIOR
WILDSMITH 4 A shocking opening 45 minutes followed up by not much better in the second half
he looked scared to death and out of his depth 
his kicking was awfull and could have cost us a further goal 
and quite frankly not ready yet to step up in Big games he was not helped though by the worst defence i have seen all season infront of him loovens being the biggest culprit who left this youngster out to dry PALMER 2 where to start he had it all today
lets start from the start then he was asleep he got skinned they scored 
game over 1 minute after he was a complete joke for 45 minutes he got battered and didnt play much better the second half either he gave the ball away time and time again his attacking crosses and throws are about as frightening as Nuhui in the 6 yard area Hes not learnt anything from last seasons mistakes and isnt good enough im afriad and wont get any better he has to go goodbye LOOVENS 4 A lot on here didnt see this today which makes me even more angry
Hes absalute f-ucking garbage he left the team to fend for itself that was the worst captaincy i have seen since darren carthorse purse wore the band he made mistake after mistake leaving Wildsmith exposed he constantly hoofed the ball into orbit hes shocking and shouldnt be given another contratc if we are seriously thinking of going up sometime in my lifetime HUTCHINSON 6 Not the best of games , but when you put him next to a pile of shit like loovens and palmer he looked like booby moore
made of plastic though , and isnt a long time soloution to the centerback problem WIGGINS 4 Complete dogshit is too kind to describe how he played today
lost not at the level of a promotion winning team not good back up for poodle and the worst thing is hes got a 3 year f -cuking contract who the f-cuk singed this muppet was it SG Wank please get injured and go away to the Vortex room SEMI 4 His time has come its over for Semi he only moves like a Ray wilkings shadow these days
Cheers mate your well loved 
but its time to teach the kids and help our backroom staff out BAZZA 7 Not the best of games for this lad today and his deliverys where awfull , but still held the ball like he wanted it and still moved in and out trying to unlock the Borro Bus
and wasnt helped by the fact that the chciken was clucking like mad next to him The best player at the club by a mile LEE 6 Not his day today either Chicken flu is a killer
DOGSHIT DISGRACE 1 A complete and utter timewasting, money robbing ,work swerving xxxx
Every time he gets a place in the strting 11 he tosses it off Bazza wanted to kill the xxxx halfway through the game hes a disgrace and how he got on the field in the second half is beyond me get rid asap we dont need the likes of this type of player anymore we have moved on SOOGOOPOO 4 Thats the first time ive seen him play and he was awfull although he did get better the second half he looks clumsy and another one of these Chicken type players that play 1 good game in 5
not working for me get rid bobbar JOAO 5 Terrible first half like the rest but when forest came on he looked better
although this wasnt his day POODLE 7 Thank god weve got him
he came on and attacked like mad and showed the rest of the lazy c-unts what they should have been doing DOGPOOPOO 2 Came on and looked like he was never going to score ever again for Wednesday ! and Guess what he didnt he had a free header ( and i say free header because his opponent looked like a a f-cuking dwarf in comparison ) and he fluffed it
get rid for the sake of Peiowls pace maker FOREST 8 MOM Rolled his sleeves up went at them hes got the lot passion goals skill inteligence what a xxxx signing
CARLOS 3 Stay of the drink on New years eve mate or you might wake up and play a team just as shit against the Fulham bus
Summary !! Not all that dissapointed as 3pts against Fulhams bus will be a good away victory and we will be back hovering again if Ipswich dont beat Brighton that is
but it is very worrying how thin our squad is and we need to get rid of at least 5 hangers on and bring in 5 much better players !! will Dc throw the cash around again ? or will he keep it safe ? either way i dont think we will go up this year and what makes next year any different ? we are so close now its untrue but yet so very far away Anyway Happy New year everyone
all the best to you all even that old bastard and most of all to MS and lets spare a thought for him the best outcome for me next year will be his health come on MS lad bore the xxxx out of me with your stats forever more
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - peiowl - 29-12-2015
I'll read this during my summer holidays imre.
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - Imre varadi - 29-12-2015
Im on mine now
sorry all year and it kept me away from speaking to her indoors for 25 minutes carlos has been smoking dutch ciggys this xmas ? hes completly oblivious to what just happened ?
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - madsteve - 29-12-2015
CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR
CC was close to pulling off a great smash & grab raid against the division's most durable opponents and promotion favourites. The fact that we conceded in the opening minute yet still re-grouped to put in a decent second half showing gives great credit to CC & his squad.
CC had already explained that several players had to be rested as their figures were in the red zone & that others could only play part of the match so the starting line up wasn't much of a surprise. However, he lost Hooper on the day, which meant that our formation had to change & that we would go into the match without our lucky talisman.
Before the kick off, I was concerned about Sougou offering any protection for Palmer & straight from the kick off Palmer was left exposed facing two players with little support, allowing Downing to swing the ball in perfectly to give Boro the lead.
Once we settled down, we worked our way into the match and followed the plan of keeping it tight. In fact, if we hadn't conceded the goal, the first half went according to CC's plan. The goal meant that he had to make adjustments earlier than planned. An injury to Hutchinson used up one sub but the introduction of FF was inevitable.
Gradually, we took control of the play although Bannan was below par, giving the ball away too much and his delivery from set pieces wasn't good enough. Nuhiu was our final throw of the dice although why was Helan removed when he was starting to impact positively rather than Sougou who was doing little.
One impressive aspect of the performance was the way that Loovens was talking to team mates during the game to give them little pep talks, most noticeably to Palmer, Helan & Joao. It showed the growing togetherness of the team which will serve us well in the coming months.
Boro made defensive substitutions and were content to just hold us at bay. After Nuhiu's introduction, we had our new preferred formation but without Hooper's movement, it is far less effective. We had a few half chances & scrambles in the box and overall matched the best team in the division.
Wildsmith - 6 - no chance for goal but otherwise sound
Palmer - 6 - given no protection but grew into the game
Hutchinson - 6 - did what he did effectively until his knee gave way
Loovens - 7 - good leader
Wiggins - 5 - just looks a bit short of the standard
Semedo - 5 - not good enough, particularly if we are chasing a game
Sougou - 5 - doesn't influence the game enough, doesn't track back
Lee - 5 - hardly involved
Bannan - 5 - below par, gave the ball away too much
Helan - 5 - just getting going when subbed
Joao - 6 - ended up too deep trying to find ball, better second half
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Pudil - 6 - solid job
FF - 7 - turned us from ordinary to a threat
Nuhiu - 5 - little impact, gave the ball away too much
Stat Attack:
Goals: 0
Assists: 0
Tackles: 4 - Loovens, Wiggins, Bannan, 2 - Lee, 1 - Hutchinson, Semedo, Sougou, Helan
Interceptions: 3 - Hutchinson, 2 - Palmer, Wiggins, 1 - Sougou, Joao, Pudil
Clearances: 4 - Wiggins, Joao, 3 - Loovens, 2 - Hutchinson, Semedo, Lee, 1 - Palmer
Attempts: 3 - FF, 1 - Wiggins, Bannan, Nuhiu
Attempts On Target: 1 - Bannan
Key Passes: 1 - Bannan, Joao, Pudil
Dribbles: 1 - Joao, FF
Dispossessed: 2 - Joao, 1 - Wiggins, Sougou, Helan
Bad Control: 3 - Helan, FF, 2 - Wiggins, Joao, 1 - Palmer, Sougou, Bannan, Lee, Nuhiu, Pudil
Crosses (Accurate in Brackets): 7 - Bannan (2), 3 - Sougou (0), 2 - FF (1), Helan (0), 1 - Palmer (0), Semedo (0), Lee (0)
Passing Accuracy (Total Passes in Brackets):
Hutchinson - 87% (39)
Semedo - 85% (33)
Lee - 82% (28)
Joao - 80% (25)
Pudil - 80% (20)
Loovens - 78% (51)
Wiggins - 77% (17)
Sougou - 75% (28)
Helan - 75% (20)
Palmer - 73% (45)
Bannan - 72% (54)
FF - 60% (10)
Nuhiu - 40% (5)
Wildsmith - 33% (33)
I had this game rated as our number one toughest of the season so in fact we acquitted ourselves pretty well. Just a shame that the early goal meant that we had to change our plan. Even so, we made a decent fist of it in the second half. We now face a run of fixtures that we can win and hopefully that will keep us in touch with the top six.
My main criticism since Boxing Day has been CC's obsession with it being unfair that Boro had a bigger break. While this is true, it gives the players an excuse to lose. He would have been far better not to mention it & get on with it. It didn't stop Bolton beating Blackburn did it.
Happy New Year. We go to Fulham on Saturday (hope I am well enough) and I think Bannan is suspended so that won't help us. We need to start winning away & Fulham is the place to start.
RE: Match Thread - Middlesbrough v SWFC - Imre varadi - 29-12-2015
I said when i saw The blackburn game posponed that this was very unfair and our game with Borro should have been posponed also . It was the only logical thing to do !! but we are talking about the football league arnt we ? and quite Frankly the games they have scheduled us this season have been completly mental !!Next season we had better make a plan to get knocked out straight away in the league cup !!