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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 24-09-2020
(23-09-2020, 20:16)St Charles Owl Wrote:(23-09-2020, 17:57)hibeejim21 Wrote: NEW::::: Gove confirms a de facto internal border in Kent - (this is something transport industry been v worried about)
Truckers will have to have a "Kent Access Permit" to get into the county says Gove. It will use police and ANPR to enforce
I remember being mocked on here for suggesting that Kent was going to be turned into a giant lorry park. Well not only has that become a reality, It sounds like they expect a rolling queue of 7,000 all the time, give or take. The costs will be absolutely xxxx colossal, and that is just for lorries waiting to get out of the UK.... who knows what is going to happen to all the produce & medicines trying to come inwards but I heard one MP in Westminster today saying pharmacies are struggling to source insulin after Jan 1.
Nothing as such to do with Brexit, but I find it somewhat disturbing that Insulin is not produced in the UK at all, especially since we have some very large pharma companies?? If we are to gain anything positive out of Brexit, however small, then it should be bringing production of some things back to the UK, especially those things that can first be made there and secondly are currently made in countries that offer no benefits such as cheap labour to produce them cheaper. Prescription drugs are surely one of those things as they are currently imported from France, Germany, Japan etc.
Since the BSE scandal the UK hasn't made insulin in large enough amounts to supply anyone and is unlikely to ever again. Brexit isn't going to sudden ly see the UK producing more of anything never mind insulin. Its not what its architects intended.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 24-09-2020
I have to put some belief in the businesses in the UK that are able to spot and act upon market opportunities. I work for a Uk company that has brought manufacturing of components in house due to the uncertainty of supply and has created jobs as a consequence. I am not saying we will suddenly become a car manufacturing country again or a major grower of tomatoes but there is a demand for products in the Uk that due to Brexit will become both more expensive and scarce, UK companies can benefit from that. As a country we do have an entrepreneurial nature, that is not generally controlled or driven by the Government, so I hope we can create something good out of this whole mess.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 24-09-2020
Aye, am sure we will see that kind of thing happening on a small scale and good luck to them, but it's small beer really. As it stands the UK currently has no trade deal with anyone within 2000 miles of us.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 25-09-2020
(24-09-2020, 21:48)hibeejim21 Wrote: Aye, am sure we will see that kind of thing happening on a small scale and good luck to them, but it's small beer really. As it stands the UK currently has no trade deal with anyone within 2000 miles of us.
There's an eco argument in there as well Jim - a huge contribution to global warming due to such a massive logistical change in trade for a Brexit way forward that was absolutely wrong from the start and that will be proved beyond all doubt in the near future!! The country/people don't deserve this but these Brexit bastards deserve and will hopefully be condemned into oblivion BUT the damage will sadly be done. Hopefully Scotland will have "moved on" to self-determination by then - let these c#### get on with their shit but "keep out of our faces" with their antagonistic political shit because we don't like them, their shit ideology or their politics.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 28-09-2020
More talk of the military being on hand to enforce covid 19 safety regulations......conveniently at the same time Boris is xxxx up the Brexit talks. He's currently playing Russian roulette with 60% of our food and medicine supplies which as it stands now will be left rotting on lorries in a 10 mile tailback in Kent.
This is now looking unavoidable as the EU are starting to make it clear today there will be no trade deal unless the internal market bill provisions that overrule the withdrawal agreement are dropped.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 16-10-2020
Given the summit has appeared to rule out a Canada-style deal, he has conclued that the UK should get ready for an Australia-style outcome. Businesses and hauliers should get ready for that, he says. Boris says today.
How on earth can they possibly 'get ready' to use the dozen or so complex software systems that will be necessary to manage freight movement to Europe and process massive amounts of new paperwork (red tape), both on and offline, seeing as xxxx none of it has even been shown to us yet, never mind rolled out ?
An australia type arrangement works for the Aussies because they are on the other xxxx side of the world. They also make their own products mostly and pay their nurses properly. Things that aren't happening here for sure.
In short there is no 'Australia type outcome' possible for the UK. Just like it wasn't possible to have a 'Canada style deal' either. Gaslighting xxxx.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 16-10-2020
Looks like a massive trade "poker game being played out" but EU officials are not "blinking" or conceding to Johnson's/Cummings' demands that give too much benefit to a country that has left the EU. In other words, "Why did you leave the EU in the first place and expect anything other than being given a poorer trade deal than before"????? They want a NO DEAL and that was obvious as far back as last year when they attempted to prorogue parliament.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 16-10-2020
A canada style deal would mean an even playing field, thats quite clearly not what the brexiters wanted. And said so.
An australia type outcome = going to WTO trading terms...the only ones to get an Australian type outcome will be migrants, who are going to end up stuck in some xxxx gulag in the outer Hebrides at this rate.
Johnson demanded that the EU’s chief negotiator come to London if he wanted to talk, he knows full well he's coming on Monday.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 16-10-2020
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/remainers-brilliantly-troll-farage-with-petition-to-name-kent-lorry-park-after-him/ar-BB1a5LB6?ocid=msedgdhp
How fitting that would be to name that embarrassing car park in Kent after one of the biggest Brexit c#### who played a big part in causing this shambles - the Farage Car Park is a far better legacy for this lying, fascist bastard than some shameless Tories brazenly trying to influence royal recognition and a knighthood - THE PITS BUT NOWT SUSPRISING WHEN IT COMES TO THE CORRUPT POLITICISED HONOURS SYSTEM IN ENGLAND!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 18-10-2020
I like 'the farage garage' ?
Anyway Gove let the cat out the bag on Marr. He said the 'red tape' load on UK business would be about the same as now with the fictional 'Canada style deal' that they were never going to get (Canada does not include financial services for a start). So what was the xxxx point ? So thats another of the supposed many 'valid reasons' for this shitshow shot down. Banged on about 'an Australian type outcome' which of course denies the fact that Australia has about 80 sectoral type agreements with the EU that we wont with 'no deal'. Might as well call it a 'Sudan type outcome'.
Gove also seemed to have amnesia when it came to the UK selling all their fishing quotas to johnny foreigner back in the day.Fish is 0.1% or so of GDP and is owned by a very small collection of owners (one of whom coincidentally is Goves old man). All the EU has to do is refuse to import fish caught by British fishermen and the UK won't have a fishing industry any longer.
Andrew Marr also played back to Gove the VoteLeave campaign video from 2016 where he said the UK will Brexit but still have the whole EU single market at our disposal. He turned a strange colour but just kept on talking, kept on lying.
Depressing.