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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 15-06-2020
BREAKING: Boris Johnson says the UK's cut-off date for a Brexit deal is July.
"I certainly don't want to see it going on until the autumn/winter as perhaps in Brussels they would like. I don't see any point in that."
That allows just 6 weeks to reach a trade deal....... It took Canada 6 years. There is a piece in the Financial Times pointing out that something like 4.6 billion pounds aggregate has been shorted on a 'no deal Brexit' from hedge funds that either directly or indirectly backed Boris. 3.7 billion of it comes from backers of vote leave... You know the ones, the ones that railed about red tape and Turkish immigration flooding the UK and 350 mill a week for the NHS.
Cummings is going to make sure his Russian backers get their mega pay day that's for sure, no matter if plebs like me get the dole as a result.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 16-06-2020
Absolutely! Your end line says it all Jim. These Brexit scumbags are hellbent on forcing home a no deal Brexit no matter what the cost or negative impact. They will say or do anything to get their way - listen eg to the recent disingenuous comments from that little runt Gove!!! Their politics are not even very subtle any more and what angers me so much from the point of view of a citizen of a devolved country that voted overwhelmingly against Brexit from the very beginning, and to "pour petrol on the fire", the Scot population was assured in Scot ref year 2014 by that Bitter Together mob that staying in the EU was a given right in voting No. Now the same Tory bastards/hypocrites are shamelessly preaching an opposing argument!! Also the equal partnership shit that they have falsely preached for long enough is over IMO!!! Picture the scene - there are four partners in a motor vehicle and everyone has chipped in for the hire and the fuel. The driver fails to consult any of his partners/passengers about the direction of travel. And when three of them demur at the speed, the likely destination, or both, the driver merely presses harder on the accelerator. Even though, as they can all now see very clearly, he is proposing to take the vehicle off the end of a pier into a watery grave. This is a not too fanciful analogy of the situation we find ourselves in this week. If you want a classic example of this behaviour, treating partners with utter disdain, look no further than Gove's tweet posted last week at the same time that all the devolved nations prompted the Brit govt to extend the Brexit negotiation period. The Scottish govt used to be merely patronised by Westminster. Now it is ignored from a great height!!!!!!!
The mechanisms set up post-devolution supposedly set up to encourage cooperation and consultation are a thoroughly unfunny joke!! The Joint Ministerial Committee was born to facilitate discussion and liaison, supposed to meet monthly - IT NEVER HAS!!!!!! Supposed to be chaired by the PM - IT ISN'T!!! Also remember that one of its few sub-committees, the EU negotiation SC, came into being specifically to discuss the UK's Brexit strategy - its objective was to "agree a UK approach to, and objectives for, Article 50 negotiations", what I'd call a four nations strategy. Not only has that objective never been fulfilled in the smallest degree, but ministers from the devolved administrations have been locked out of every meaningful decision-making process To be clear, an outcome the Scot electorate rejected by a massive majority was actively sought and driven forward by a Tory administration that a Scottish electorate rejected by a massive majority!! Anyone who thinks this resembles democracy should seek urgent optical advice. And it is not just a NO-Deal Brexit, catastrophic enough as that would be, it is not unreasonable to question the sanity level of an administration which, finding itself in the deepest of economic holes, calls for more spades???????????At every level and on every issue, Scotland finds itself in an ante room when anything of moment is under discussion!! A shocker!! I could go on but I need a rest. For me JUST BRING ON THE DESIRED PUSH FOR A REFERENDUM AND THE INEVITABLE SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATIONS ASAP!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 13-07-2020
'There are no plans to build a lorry park at Dover'
-Michael Gove
-27 acre site purchased
-To be fenced off with access road
-'To hold delayed HGVs'
But it's not a lorry park
Oh No.
I notice the Kent residents are not best amused by this development, but tough shit really. This is your Brexit dividend.
All this to make British goods 25%-50% more expensive to buyers in the biggest market in the world, situated just 20 miles away.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 13-07-2020
(13-07-2020, 19:10)hibeejim21 Wrote: 'There are no plans to build a lorry park at Dover'
-Michael Gove
-27 acre site purchased
-To be fenced off with access road
-'To hold delayed HGVs'
But it's not a lorry park
Oh No.
I notice the Kent residents are not best amused by this development, but tough shit really. This is your Brexit dividend.
All this to make British goods 25%-50% more expensive to buyers in the biggest market in the world, situated just 20 miles away.
Come on Jim, if you are going to quote stats at least get them right!!!! Its 52 miles from Ashford to Calais not 20!!!!
Seriously though, what idiot of a government minister would have said the original quote when its plain to anyone with two brain cells that this lorry park was always going to be needed in some form or other?? Oh, yes it Gove we are talking about!!!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 13-07-2020
Aye! Gove is one of the most shameful lying shit heids in this Brit govt SCO and I'm ashamed that the guy is a Scot, an adopted lad from Aberdeenshire with no scruples or moral fibre whatsoever but surrounded by a Brit Cabinet full of incompetents that Johnson has created with his Russia sponsored SPAD named Cummings. Not content with that unimpressive feat, Johnson is now expected to appoint a failed Chris Grayling as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, an oxymoron if ever there was one!! This new role will undountedly enable the hapless nincompoop to substantially increase his portfolio of blunders - Grayling's adventures are legendary. So why the appointment - WHAT IS GOING ON?? There are a number of attributes that are essential to being a Johnson appointee to any important position: loyalty, inferior intellect, malleability and a proclivity for deflecting attention away from the PM. However, this appointment is not without risk as Grayling, a May loyalist, could publish the dreaded Russia dossier "by mistake" - I'd love to see it happen as a matter of true justice in the name of the public! Nevertheless, at the end of the day he'll only be one of the many scapegoats to "get the chop" when it suits but for now it is just another crazy day in HM Government - nothing new there!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 14-07-2020
Loved Damian Green asking Gove if the lorry park could be smaller or moved elsewhere as his poor constituents don't like it !! This is what they voted for ya xxxx trumpet... 60% of them voted for brexit!!
Freedom of Movement ended today for us. To UK citizens this is going to mean increased costs for medical cover when visiting EU countries, increased roaming charges for mobile phones, long queues at passport control, increased 'red tape' in obtaining pet passports, increased 'red tape' when importing or exporting goods with long queues at UK ports, tariffs on goods, 'red tape' affecting all of our 'just in time supply chains'.
The lies and deception are all going to come home to roost now, meanwhile the taxpayers dosh is being recycled via government contracts into the tory parties piggy bank via donations from their 'friends'.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 14-07-2020
The bastards recently placed a UK govt Brexit ad in Scotland saying: The UK's new start; lets get going. It was hijacked within 24 hrs by a Scot indy backer who placed another ad - SCOTLAND'S NEW START; LET'S GET GOING. In other words - GTF!!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 14-07-2020
There is very little reason for us to stick around any more.
Perhaps when Nicola agreed to support that idiot Swinson's ego trip that let Johnson have his election, she calculated that a Johnson government would be so catastrophic, it would basically make the Independence argument for her.
Makes sense.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 23-09-2020
NEW::::: Gove confirms a de facto internal border in Kent - (this is something transport industry been v worried about)
Truckers will have to have a "Kent Access Permit" to get into the county says Gove. It will use police and ANPR to enforce
I remember being mocked on here for suggesting that Kent was going to be turned into a giant lorry park. Well not only has that become a reality, It sounds like they expect a rolling queue of 7,000 all the time, give or take. The costs will be absolutely xxxx colossal, and that is just for lorries waiting to get out of the UK.... who knows what is going to happen to all the produce & medicines trying to come inwards but I heard one MP in Westminster today saying pharmacies are struggling to source insulin after Jan 1.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - St Charles Owl - 23-09-2020
(23-09-2020, 17:57)hibeejim21 Wrote: NEW::::: Gove confirms a de facto internal border in Kent - (this is something transport industry been v worried about)
Truckers will have to have a "Kent Access Permit" to get into the county says Gove. It will use police and ANPR to enforce
I remember being mocked on here for suggesting that Kent was going to be turned into a giant lorry park. Well not only has that become a reality, It sounds like they expect a rolling queue of 7,000 all the time, give or take. The costs will be absolutely xxxx colossal, and that is just for lorries waiting to get out of the UK.... who knows what is going to happen to all the produce & medicines trying to come inwards but I heard one MP in Westminster today saying pharmacies are struggling to source insulin after Jan 1.
Nothing as such to do with Brexit, but I find it somewhat disturbing that Insulin is not produced in the UK at all, especially since we have some very large pharma companies?? If we are to gain anything positive out of Brexit, however small, then it should be bringing production of some things back to the UK, especially those things that can first be made there and secondly are currently made in countries that offer no benefits such as cheap labour to produce them cheaper. Prescription drugs are surely one of those things as they are currently imported from France, Germany, Japan etc.