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RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 26-02-2020
I must add that the Cummings "basket case" is at the forefront of this madness but this man's agenda is aligned the same shit attached to an even bigger loon ball called Steve Bannon and CHAOS THEORY PREVAILS!! That is precisely what they are about. I note that up here in Scotland the Scot govt are again highlighting that a min 20% of Scot small businesses will fold because of Johnson's/Patel's ill-conceived immigration policy and re-asserting their position to have a separate Scot visa process to deal with different Scottish requirements. Of course, if it becomes the expected "shambles" I've no doubt Johnson will "throw his Home Secretary under the bus" at the appropriate time in order to initiate his usual deflection/body swerve movement away from himself.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 27-02-2020
So now Boris says there is a deadline of June for progress in the trade talks, and if not we go straight to no deal preparation.
Do you see what's happening here ? This crew are going with the bizarre position that they have a mandate from the UK electorate and hence the EU should submit to their demands. And once that gets laughed out of town they will revert to what they always wanted.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 28-02-2020
Yep Jim! Absolutely right and forget the English population on this (they bizarrely made their choice!!), I hope that a huge chunk of the Scottish population finally grasp what this is all about plus the blatant disregard for Scotland AND THEY SIGNIFICANTLY BOLSTER THE RISING "SWING" OF SUPPORT FOR SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE while many supportive Euro citizens watch on with great interest.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 28-02-2020
In June we are going to WTO/No deal. A scenario that should strike fear into the hearts of our car manufacturer jobs, farmers and fishermen and haulage industries.
Have a look at North's stuff online for example. (EUReferendum.com) He totally hates the EU and wanted Brexit, but at least he's trying to give an intelligent analysis - in this instance even he acknowledges we are totally fucked!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - spireitematt - 28-02-2020
Johnson would be bloody stupid to start playing trade wars especially when the whole World is on the verge of a global recession. People will rue the day they voted for the Tories especially with how incompetent Johnson is.
Johnson signed an agreement with the EU and now he's going to renege on it and then the EU said we could probably have a Canada trade agreement deal but now that's been taken off the table. They are both playing silly mind games.
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 29-02-2020
There is no such thing as a 'canada' trade agreement. All the deals are tailored to each Individual country and their own circumstances. The Canadian deal alone took 7 years remember, the brexiters want this in 10 months. It's not doable.
That said, We know that bunter has to pay off the speculators and the Americans want a no deal, so we are getting the cliff dive, with barely any infrastructure to cope with what it will entail.
It's all moot anyway, The UK is threatening to renege on the Withdrawal Agreement and Irish protocol BEFORE negotiations even begin....Thus threatening the internal security of an EU member (Ireland)
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 29-02-2020
Lewis Goodall
@lewis_goodall
· Feb 27
Gove says the government “will act without prejudice and with full respect to the Northern Ireland protocol.”
He does so with NI Sec Brandon Lewis sat next to him, who has directly contradicted the protocol and after a week where the govt has briefed it will escape it...
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 29-02-2020
So Gove the "slime ball" comes out with his latest shameless comment - nothing new there! One little "viper" in a big nest of Brit govt vipers!!
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - hibeejim21 - 02-03-2020
@DavidLammy
So now you admit the potential economic benefits of a UK-US trade deal are just +0.2% of GDP.
And the cost of Brexit is somewhere between -7.6% and -4.9% of GDP.
In what planet does this boost wages or create jobs for anyone except the Tory Cabinet?
RE: European Union Referendum - In or Out?? - 0762 - 02-03-2020
I'm convinced that a lotta this stuff will be fully exposed as fact because we are stupidly following the unrecommended path to the worst form of Brexit and independent govt reports will eventually be corroborated to show up the lying bastards who will be the main beneficiaries from this nonsensical proposal and that includes the massive tax avoidance conspiracy that will be exposed when it happens. The tragedy of all this is that it is now formally happening and there is no turning back. At worst, these shameless Brexiters in govt can f### up "big time" and "walk away" for another replacement govt to "pick up the mess"!! Job done and an utter economic shambles established!!