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RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - hibeejim21 - 10-12-2019
Truly,truly disgusting and shameful.
Then using the usual MSM lickspittles to try and deflect for him and smear labour afterwards. Corbyn has had to call them out for 'media bias' and its unfortunate he's had to do that but I don't think he had a choice.
Please,please please let people see sense and vote whoever labour, lib dem, green, whatever it takes to keep this monster away from no 10.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - Amelia Chaffinch - 10-12-2019
0762, I put the story on Facebook yesterday. I got an ant-Corbyn reply from a one-time socialist.
I told you several times, no matter what the likes of Johnson and Farage do, they hate Corbyn. I swear if Hitler or Mussolini rose up, they would have more chance than Jeremy. It's beyond mental.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - 0762 - 10-12-2019
Amelia, a lotta these people are traitors to their own principles - no values, no morality, no backbone! They've ditched them in the face of populist "brainwashing" and emotion. Hopefully there are still enough decent people who are less extreme than this and will follow common sense and "do the right thing" even if it means "tactical voting"!!
Re Farage, there is a strong rumour "doing the rounds up here" that he has been promised his "gong" (screeeeaaaammmmmm if true as it reminds me of the Alistair Darling treachery re Scot indy in 2014 when he eventually received his token knighthood!!) if he "tones down" his Brexit Party activities so that the Tory leave vote is not fragmented in certain constituencies. Also the Tory actions right now centre on ploughing millions of quid into flooding data into social media and mobile phone channels with political shit that favours them - a la previous Cambridge Analytica practise!!! IMO this is unlawful but I believe the Electoral Commission is either complicit or effectively "out of their depth" much like happened re Brexit - it is absolutely ridiculous and undemocratic!!! The Tories are desperate for electoral victory to happen and they will do anything, criminal or otherwise, to get away with it!!
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - 0762 - 10-12-2019
(10-12-2019, 01:39)hibeejim21 Wrote: Truly,truly disgusting and shameful.
Then using the usual MSM lickspittles to try and deflect for him and smear labour afterwards. Corbyn has had to call them out for 'media bias' and its unfortunate he's had to do that but I don't think he had a choice.
Please,please please let people see sense and vote whoever labour, lib dem, green, whatever it takes to keep this monster away from no 10.
I must add that the false comments/lies that were made by the bbc and ITV re a "nothing incident" that a Tory aide was assaulted by a Labour Party protester o/s Leeds General Hospital is nothing short of an absolute disgrace. Formal apologies already issued by both bbc and ITV Political Editors but they have provided this false bullshit to the public all the same AND IT SUITS THE TORY LIARS WHO FALSELY MADE THIS CLAIM - video evidence proved them to be liars!! IMO the calls for Kuenssberg and Peston to be sacked are justified to the point where one has to ask, "Were they both duped by biased bbc/ITV Producers in reporting on these false allegations or are they closet Tories"???????? Kuenssberg actually repeated the allegation later on FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is so convenient for the Tory campaign to be the "offended party" - it is straight out of the Cummings ultra RW manual of political manipulation and it reminds me of the same techniques that they tried to "pull" up here in Scotland during referendum year/a peaceful indy campaign in 2014. However, there are lotsa other pro-Tory shenanigans going on out there that are undemocratic and unlawful and should be challenged by the media and other official scrutineers!!! Oh. I forgot THEY OWN MOST OF THE MEDIA in this democratic country (NOT!!) that is called the UK. Has a General Election ever been declared void because of events that are unconstitutional and undemocratic!!!!?? I think we are getting very close to that scenario now where certain political parties should already be preparing an assault on the eventual "fiddled result" unless a Xmas miracle truly happens.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - hibeejim21 - 11-12-2019
Yougov final poll suggests a small Tory majority of around 28......but can't rule out a hung parliament.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - hibeejim21 - 11-12-2019
A Tory majority will give us a right wing joke government which does not understand the details of global trade or the implications of what it is doing. The last 4 years, pre and post referendum, have shown this.
Davis - we can sign deals with individual EU countries - WRONG
Fox - we will have 40 free trade agreements ready to go by March 2019 - WRONG
Mogg - we can use Gatt24 - WRONG.
Raab - I didn't understand the importance of Dover to cross channel trade - all kinds of WRONG
Johnson - with my deal there will be no checks between GB and NI - WRONG
If we enter transition there will be a year minimum, period of grace whilst the UK remains within the SM and CU and all 4 freedoms apply, then we are faced with losing frictionless access within the SM and hundreds of trade deals. They wont be getting brexit "done"... It will be a no deal scenario as the ERG pointed out a couple of months ago as the reason they voted for the WA, dictated by the shadowy money that supports them.
I have problems with corbyn but his attempt at compromise with another vote at least looks like an attempt of honesty, god knows we could use some.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - WBA-Josh - 11-12-2019
1 day to go and I’m still undecided. Do I go with my heart and Alana Bates (Labour) who has promises of change and hope but a small chance of winning or do I go with my head and Andrew George (Lib Dem) who has some good policies, was MP for this constituency from 1997 to 2015 and who has a good chance of unseating Derek Thomas (Tory)?
Decisions, decisions.....
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - hibeejim21 - 11-12-2019
In your case I'd go tactically and vote for the lib dem candidate....but I guess it comes down to how you feel about brexit.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - 0762 - 11-12-2019
Bottom line Josh - try to remove the Tory - look at the constituency voting numbers, previous voting counts plus consider how Brexit rates in your constituency.
RE: A UK General Election and Trump already "sticking his nose" in it.... - hibeejim21 - 12-12-2019
Survation were closest last time out, and they are predicting pretty much a Tory landslide.
The only hope is the young, newly registered voters come from under the radar, and tactical voting kicks in. But it's a tall order, the political system here is a joke