(25-06-2016, 22:32)St Charles Owl Wrote: My pet hate is when people do something bad in the name of their religion!! I have a complete distrust for the Christian Right over here, in fact I would say I would trust the Muslim community more than the Christian zealots we see here!! I also hate it when their values or beliefs are rammed down your throat as things you to should adhere to, that's bollocks, as you said Stateside, we all know what is essentially right or wrong and shrouding that in some belief system still makes it right or wrong!!

(25-06-2016, 23:13)Statesideowl Wrote: That would be the NRA. They lobby heavily against any type of Gun control or reform. No moral compass whatsoever they've been called out on such campaigns as targeting kids at young ages to get in to guns.

The NRA called up most of the Republican Senators up straight after thee Orlando shooting and told them, if you want to keep your seat you better vote against any type of gun reform. Despite 85% of Americans demanding that people on the no-fly or terrorist watch lists be stopped from walking into a shop & buying high powered weapons that have only one purpose, to mow down human beings.

Then there's the 2nd amendment, which is so poorly and loosely interpreted, the Republicans & NRA use it to whip up hysteria within the gun toting community that Mr Black ( insert N word here) president is coming to their house to take away their guns

And there's the American public, who as much as they deny it, are suckers for a tragedy. They seem to get off on a bit of misery, a strange twist on schadenfreude

(24-06-2016, 20:37)Maddix Wrote: The primary school that my young 'un left last year is falling to bits but instead of getting money for a refurbishment we have a £7M cycle highway being constructed between Leeds and Bradford   that nobody will actually use   and it's causing even more congestion because its narrowed the roads and actually blocked peoples driveways  

It wouldn't be so bad if cyclists actually paid road tax and got insured  

As you say, it's not just immigration, it's a myriad of reasons  

And I'm laughing my cock off at the obscenely rich bankers et al bleating about stocks and shares   what they don't get is that the majority of us plebs couldn't give a flying f'uck as we can't afford them anyway  

(26-06-2016, 00:47)peiowl Wrote:

(24-06-2016, 20:37)Maddix Wrote: The primary school that my young 'un left last year is falling to bits but instead of getting money for a refurbishment we have a £7M cycle highway being constructed between Leeds and Bradford   that nobody will actually use   and it's causing even more congestion because its narrowed the roads and actually blocked peoples driveways  

It wouldn't be so bad if cyclists actually paid road tax and got insured  

As you say, it's not just immigration, it's a myriad of reasons  

And I'm laughing my cock off at the obscenely rich bankers et al bleating about stocks and shares   what they don't get is that the majority of us plebs couldn't give a flying f'uck as we can't afford them anyway  

Not that simple Maddix. Stocks take a beating, people stop investing, companies downsize or fold. That's what happened in 08. It affects me because my pension funds are invested and have already taken a hit. The stock market very much affects the lives of ordinary people. They often don't realize it.