(30-09-2020, 17:24)Blue Baggie Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 16:35)Slick_Footwork Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 15:09)wba13 Wrote: I might be thick or stupid or both but with likes of Austin Grosiki and Hegazi why could there be a problem with wages. Yes agreed there probably on big money now we’re a Premiership side ,, but there Millionaires wether the next club they go to offer them 10,000 per wk or less should not matter. They don’t need the money they could live comfortably for the rest of there lives now without moving. If they want to continue to play and not sit out there contract they will all go to a decent championship side. { abroad in Hegarzi’s case } I cannot for one minute see Austin,who loves playing or Grosicki and Hegazi who want to keep playing for there countries turning down offers. The difficult one is Zohore, still young on high wages to get him out we will have to subsidise his wages. Just my thoughts for me I would want to play.

I'm in a similar boat to you, If I was a pro, I'd rather play and get paid a lower salary. Especially, as you suggest, it's not going to be a poorper salary in the Championship.

But from knowing someone who works in the game, I've realised some professionals can be different. Some still want to play, but there are plenty who are just taking the money. Either because they have fell out of love with the game, don't like football and are merely mercenaries or have pressure from WAGs to just earn as much as they can. Let's face it, the typical footballers wife is just there for the cash.

So I think it depends on individuals. Hopefully ours are the type who still love the game and will encourage a move.

Of course wages would be a problem. If your earning £100K a week you buy bigger houses - super cars - holiday homes.
They don't live in the same world as a normal person. We all live to our means. 
Remember this is a job for them and they have a limited time to maximise their earnings.
Imagine if your weekly wage was cut in half, are you saying in you had £1/2 million in the bank you like to take a pay cut - NO NO NO .

(30-09-2020, 18:44)wba13 Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 17:24)Blue Baggie Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 16:35)Slick_Footwork Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 15:09)wba13 Wrote: I might be thick or stupid or both but with likes of Austin Grosiki and Hegazi why could there be a problem with wages. Yes agreed there probably on big money now we’re a Premiership side ,, but there Millionaires wether the next club they go to offer them 10,000 per wk or less should not matter. They don’t need the money they could live comfortably for the rest of there lives now without moving. If they want to continue to play and not sit out there contract they will all go to a decent championship side. { abroad in Hegarzi’s case } I cannot for one minute see Austin,who loves playing or Grosicki and Hegazi who want to keep playing for there countries turning down offers. The difficult one is Zohore, still young on high wages to get him out we will have to subsidise his wages. Just my thoughts for me I would want to play.

I'm in a similar boat to you, If I was a pro, I'd rather play and get paid a lower salary. Especially, as you suggest, it's not going to be a poorper salary in the Championship.

But from knowing someone who works in the game, I've realised some professionals can be different. Some still want to play, but there are plenty who are just taking the money. Either because they have fell out of love with the game, don't like football and are merely mercenaries or have pressure from WAGs to just earn as much as they can. Let's face it, the typical footballers wife is just there for the cash.

So I think it depends on individuals. Hopefully ours are the type who still love the game and will encourage a move.

Of course wages would be a problem. If your earning £100K a week you buy bigger houses - super cars - holiday homes.
They don't live in the same world as a normal person. We all live to our means. 
Remember this is a job for them and they have a limited time to maximise their earnings.
Imagine if your weekly wage was cut in half, are you saying in you had £1/2 million in the bank you like to take a pay cut - NO NO NO .

Sorry blue cannot agree the players were talking about are multi millionaires. Just check out the car park. There cars are worth more than some houses, yes they can afford to take a drop in wages.Krovinovic has just proved that by paying the rent on an apartment which he wasn’t living in, in Birmingham and good luck to him. The players I’m talking about have had decent career’s on high wages if they want to continue playing they will take a drop otherwise they are just taking up squad places with no game time and I don’t believe they want that.

(30-09-2020, 19:29)Blue Baggie Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 18:44)wba13 Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 17:24)Blue Baggie Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 16:35)Slick_Footwork Wrote:

(30-09-2020, 15:09)wba13 Wrote: I might be thick or stupid or both but with likes of Austin Grosiki and Hegazi why could there be a problem with wages. Yes agreed there probably on big money now we’re a Premiership side ,, but there Millionaires wether the next club they go to offer them 10,000 per wk or less should not matter. They don’t need the money they could live comfortably for the rest of there lives now without moving. If they want to continue to play and not sit out there contract they will all go to a decent championship side. { abroad in Hegarzi’s case } I cannot for one minute see Austin,who loves playing or Grosicki and Hegazi who want to keep playing for there countries turning down offers. The difficult one is Zohore, still young on high wages to get him out we will have to subsidise his wages. Just my thoughts for me I would want to play.

I'm in a similar boat to you, If I was a pro, I'd rather play and get paid a lower salary. Especially, as you suggest, it's not going to be a poorper salary in the Championship.

But from knowing someone who works in the game, I've realised some professionals can be different. Some still want to play, but there are plenty who are just taking the money. Either because they have fell out of love with the game, don't like football and are merely mercenaries or have pressure from WAGs to just earn as much as they can. Let's face it, the typical footballers wife is just there for the cash.

So I think it depends on individuals. Hopefully ours are the type who still love the game and will encourage a move.

Of course wages would be a problem. If your earning £100K a week you buy bigger houses - super cars - holiday homes.
They don't live in the same world as a normal person. We all live to our means. 
Remember this is a job for them and they have a limited time to maximise their earnings.
Imagine if your weekly wage was cut in half, are you saying in you had £1/2 million in the bank you like to take a pay cut - NO NO NO .

Sorry blue cannot agree the players were talking about are multi millionaires. Just check out the car park. There cars are worth more than some houses, yes they can afford to take a drop in wages.Krovinovic has just proved that by paying the rent on an apartment which he wasn’t living in, in Birmingham and good luck to him. The players I’m talking about have had decent career’s on high wages if they want to continue playing they will take a drop otherwise they are just taking up squad places with no game time and I don’t believe they want that.

You don't end up a multi millionaire by accepting pay cuts my friend. Me or you don't live like they do, it's difficult for normal people to 
understand why they need money and will never move clubs for less money. No footballer does - even the richest players dont take pay cuts.
Some could afford to play for free Messi, Bale, Ronaldo for example. But no they want more and more.
Bale has just moved back to Spurs - Real Madrid pay £330K a week and Spurs £220K a week. He's a multi-multi millionaire but did he take a pay cut? no chance.
Even if they don't need or want the money personally they will give it away, but they will never take a pay cut.

(30-09-2020, 20:32)St Charles Owl Wrote: I'm with Blue on this one.  Players have short careers in comparison to the rest of us but as stated earn a heck of alot more, but as Blue said that affords them a lifestyle that we can only dream of but still needs to be maintained.  Charlie Austin is a classic case of this, he was reportedly on 100k a week at Southampton, moved to you guys and is reportedly on 70k a week, so he did take a cut to get game time.  But there was only 2-3 clubs in the Championship that could afford to do that deal, those on parachute payments, so his marketability in the Championship is very limited because of his wages.  The average wage in the Championship is 29k/week and while I would expect Austin to be higher than that its reasonable to say the most he is likely to get form other teams in the Championship is 40-50k/week.  So if he was to do that he would be taking a 50% pay cut over what he was on a year ago.  I believe his contract runs out after next season, so he can either sit it out on the bench for you guys and earn 7m or move to another championship club and cut that by 3m or so, a lot of players will not take that hit unless they are forced to.

Of course if he can get a move to a PL club, its a completely different story where the average wage is over 10 times that of the Championship!!!  But I think the Championship is probably his level now anyway.

(30-09-2020, 23:55)Blue Baggie Wrote: I'm predicting. No Grant.
Sturridge on a pay as you play deal
And a Saido return.
Austin - Zohore - Phillips leave.