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RE: On political analysis - St Charles Owl - 05-06-2017
(04-06-2017, 20:02)hibeejim21 Wrote: May really is an odious bastard of a woman.
Don't you find that these days with so many politicians?? Where are the decent ones these days? In the past there would be good, decent politicians from both sides of the aisle, even if you didn't agree with their policies you knew they were generally good people. Its the same over here as well as it is in the UK now.
RE: On political analysis - hibeejim21 - 05-06-2017
(04-06-2017, 14:48)0762 Wrote: Spot on 'on that score' SCO and I notice May politicising the latest London atrocities today by endorsing an even stricter Police state than we currently have plus challenging Corbyn and Diane Abbott on their anti terrorist credentials!!!?? What a shameless f###### crone of a toerag she actually is and I hope a lot more British voters see through the disguise and their sneaky techniques being used on the media to try and influence voters! For example, there are a number of toerag infiltrators of bbc QT who have been 'rumbled'! One ersehole who challenged Corbyn professing that zero hours contracts were great and was later exposed as a toerag with photos of the c### drinking champagne in top hat and pinstripe suit. There was also a classic exposure in 'social media' of nine different hecklers of Corbyn's view re a nuclear deterrent and terrorism and the 'common factor' was their age and clear intransigence on the issues - all 'oldies' and all of them 'favoured' by the bbc in a public debate to quiz Corbyn who actually handled their 'shit' very well anyway!!
Political plants are becoming more and more common on these kind of shows. You seen that with the nurse and sturgeon. Most of those lambasting corbyn were all UKIPED out their minds. The poshos moaning about zero hour contracts and minimum wage were absolutely not going to be affected by it
Then you had some other idiot moaning about corporation tax which would still be amongst the lowest in europe with labours changes.People who have little should realise that the only way they are going to get the advantages of any of this phenomenal wealth in the UK is not through some bullshit 'trickle down' theory, but simply through the world's simplest balancing act. A fair, progressive tax system.
Why the masses can't work this out for themselves and stop worrying about meaningless shite like nuclear weapons is baffling.
RE: On political analysis - 0762 - 05-06-2017
Aye Jim! Remember this is all relative to the use of the 'WMD threat' that previous British govts, and others, have used to falsely attack the likes of Iraq and yet certain people within our shores still wanna bizarrely present the argument that we should embrace the philosophy of having our own WMDs and the possibility of blowing away millions of innocent people in some kinda justified retaliation! But of course some folk don't wanna 'push the button' anyway. So don't bother with needlessly 'forking out' billions of quid for a 'f### off deterrent' idea and spend that kinda money on far more important things that will benefit our country and people! Also, for example, the Russians and Putin know only too well that nuclear reprisal would have a world wide effect particularly after experiencing the effects of the Chernobyl 'meltdown' disaster and it's impact on countries throughout Europe + the disastrous legacy of people still dying of radiation induced cancers in Ukraine even now - harsh lessons learnt and that disaster would be classed as 'small scale' compared with the 'real thing'!
RE: On political analysis - 0762 - 06-06-2017
(03-06-2017, 13:00)hibeejim21 Wrote: Ipsos Mori who had the tories consistently with the biggest lead now have it at 5 points.
That's heading into hung parliament territory if the seats fall right and there's a high turnout.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-general-election-polls-tory-lead-slashed-by-16-points-as-election-race-on-a-knife-edge/ar-BBC8Swe?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
The Tory lead now apparently down to 1 pt and no surprise to me as this UK PM, May, is consistently proving her strong leadership slogan is a farce and it must be embarrassing and demoralising for many of her backers who are watching her insipid campaign unfold.
RE: On political analysis - hibeejim21 - 07-06-2017
A hung parliament or even a small tory majority would be orgasmic,but as you correctly predicted with the corbyn smearing in full effect ....that might be enough tol see the tories win by 6 or 7 points. Going by news night last night a lot of 'undecideds' in the marginals who are not particularly fond of either main candidate (and a surprising amount of support for corbyn it has to be said)...but i got the vibe the undecideds will vote tory.
The blue rinse brigade/shy tory syndrome again i guess.
RE: On political analysis - 0762 - 07-06-2017
As said earlier Jim, a high turnout of young voters could make it very interesting because they are predominantly anti Tory. However, there is normally a 40% lower difference between this age group voting and the 'oldies' who do turn out in high numbers and still influence the vote for the wrong govt or referendum vote! That % difference is the highest in Europe while countries like Belgium and Finland experience the exact opposite with higher numbers of young voters - something very wrong with the UK set up? Possibly educational?
RE: On political analysis - St Charles Owl - 07-06-2017
Not just the UK 0762. Over here the young voters turnout in low numbers and that was one of the key factors in Trump winning as well. People's attitudes naturally harden as you get older, you look back at the good old days with fondness and you often see attitudes move to the right as people get older. Getting the young out to vote is key for the Labour party, without it they won't win.
RE: On political analysis - themaclad - 07-06-2017
Predicted Tory majority of at least 50 seats possibly could be as many as 100. Forecast for rain and a lot of Labour voters who do not like Corbyn won't vote, as for the young well depends on the day whether they can be arsed
RE: On political analysis - 0762 - 07-06-2017
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/election-2017-record-number-of-people-register-to-vote-on-deadline-day/ar-BBCfdKR?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
As record numbers register to vote in the UK. Also I'll be gobsmacked if such a majority does unfold and my disbelief in the UK election system will merely be endorsed again esp after the hugely unimpressive Tory campaign and manifesto that does not deserve any kinda majority whatsoever! I, and most free-thinking Scottish voters will solidly vote for the SNP and I thought Nicola was 'ultra cute' by wooing Labour voters with a comment that the SNP are closer to Corbyn's Labour Party than Dugdale's Scottish Labour Party which looks like it is in turmoil under her stewardship and after her embarrassing charade last night on STV leaders' QT when Sturgeon 'called out' Dugdale on her post brexit result private view that she wouldn't oppose a second referendum! Dugdale never explicitly denied that this concession took place in private conversation and Ponsonby gave her three opps to deny it - note there is a difference between opposing Scot Indy and opposing a second referendum and Dugdale definitely tried to play the 'smart arse' again by rightly confirming she is against Scot Indy. Then she leaves the TV studio and becomes a real fud by insinuating on Twitter/Facebook that Sturgeon is a liar and desperate??????? The shameless, desperate liar can be identified to one consistent serial offender and her name is definitely Kezia Dugdale!!
(07-06-2017, 20:52)St Charles Owl Wrote: Not just the UK 0762. Over here the young voters turnout in low numbers and that was one of the key factors in Trump winning as well. People's attitudes naturally harden as you get older, you look back at the good old days with fondness and you often see attitudes move to the right as people get older. Getting the young out to vote is key for the Labour party, without it they won't win.
Not so in certain European countries where the percentage difference is much lower and there must be another reason for such a record % difference. I do tend to suspect that political education is not as predominant as it possibly should be in guiding younger generations and ultimately reducing such a glaring difference in voting turnout.
RE: On political analysis - St Charles Owl - 08-06-2017
Belgium has a high turnout because voting in GEs is mandatory there, not sure its really any different with young voter turnout in many Western countries.