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Does he think we are daft? - Devongone - 01-01-2019
A few days ago our media bloke, is his name Nick Johnson?, gave us a pretty poor match preview on Solihull, that consisted of Tim Flowers' career sourced from Wikipedia and a bit about Adi Yussuf. And no mention of the danger in their recent signing of Nathan Blissett, who went on to play and score two while the player to watch, Yussuf, remained glued to the bench until the contest was all but over.
Play it again Sam a few days later and the best we get is 0-4 regurgitated. Come on, this guy is getting paid for putting out this garbage. Does he think no one will notice, or care? I, SpireMatt or almost anyone else with internet access could do better for free and use up very little spare time doing it.
The club obviously did not produce an excellent Christmas meal by taking an attitude that any old thing would do, so why does it tolerate slovenly approaches to other aspects of its business? If everything you put on show represents the best you can do ....... then that will be reflected on the field too. Well that's my opinion.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - spireitematt - 01-01-2019
(01-01-2019, 14:38)Devongone Wrote: A few days ago our media bloke, is his name Nick Johnson?, gave us a pretty poor match preview on Solihull, that consisted of Tim Flowers' career sourced from Wikipedia and a bit about Adi Yussuf. And no mention of the danger in their recent signing of Nathan Blissett, who went on to play and score two while the player to watch, Yussuf, remained glued to the bench until the contest was all but over.
Play it again Sam a few days later and the best we get is 0-4 regurgitated. Come on, this guy is getting paid for putting out this garbage. Does he think no one will notice, or care? I, SpireMatt or almost anyone else with internet access could do better for free and use up very little spare time doing it.
The club obviously did not produce an excellent Christmas meal by taking an attitude that any old thing would do, so why does it tolerate slovenly approaches to other aspects of its business? If everything you put on show represents the best you can do ....... then that will be reflected on the field too. Well that's my opinion.
If you were going to write a pre-match preview of Solihull Moors, you would include how the team came about in 2007, a bit about there history and successes, the manager (Tim Flowers) and talk about danger men and also you would include a piece about Marshall Willock as well being a former Spireite.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - Devongone - 02-01-2019
Agree about 2007 and Moor Green. I'd talk about Gudger too, who they got from Brackley I think. Mind you I'd give Willock a miss as he decamped to Redditch the last I heard. But that would all come out when you did half an hour's research ...... which you would do to check your facts before publishing on the club's website .......
I'm afraid this guy thinks he is the only one who has ever heard of cut and paste. I understand he has a lot of other responsibilities, but he should be told his output verges on the embarrassing. (And he finds out so little about our players too!)
RE: Does he think we are daft? - spireitematt - 02-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 18:38)Devongone Wrote: Agree about 2007 and Moor Green. I'd talk about Gudger too, who they got from Brackley I think. Mind you I'd give Willock a miss as he decamped to Redditch the last I heard. But that would all come out when you did half an hour's research ...... which you would do to check your facts before publishing on the club's website .......
I'm afraid this guy thinks he is the only one who has ever heard of cut and paste. I understand he has a lot of other responsibilities, but he should be told his output verges on the embarrassing. (And he finds out so little about our players too!)
Dev I wouldn't worry about it. There is more important things to get worked up over.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - SaltergateBorn - 02-01-2019
I`m with you on that one, Matt. They can produce whatever bloody rubbish they like in the programme as far as I`m concerned; it`s some of the rubbish we`re apt to produce on the pitch that concerns me a hell of a lot more.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - spireitematt - 03-01-2019
(02-01-2019, 21:03)SaltergateBorn Wrote: I`m with you on that one, Matt. They can produce whatever bloody rubbish they like in the programme as far as I`m concerned; it`s some of the rubbish we`re apt to produce on the pitch that concerns me a hell of a lot more.
Football programmes are pretty good but too much of the content is full page or double page adverts. Shame there isn't a fanzine written by the fans for the fans. Only way you can hear fan's opinions now is on social media or on forums.
I'm worried about results and the future of the club. I was studying the league table yesterday after we had drawn 2-2 against Solihull Moors and noticed that we've drawn more games in the league than any other club. 13 in total. Drawing games isn't bad as long as you are winning games too and your near the top end of the table. We've only won 4 games and the other team in the division which has only won 4 is Braintree who sit bottom, also we've only lost 10 games and most teams which have lost 9 or 10 games sit around mid-table or just outside the playoffs. The problem isn't drawing games but winning them.
We've got 19 games left and there's 57 pts on offer now if we won every game from now till the end of the season we could be in the playoffs (optimistic I know) If we can get another 25-30pts from the next 19 games we should be safe. Finishing about 14th-15th should be the target now.
Big question is would you give Pemberton the job till the end of the season or bring someone in now?
RE: Does he think we are daft? - SaltergateBorn - 03-01-2019
The problem is, Matt, when you talk about ‘fans` opinions’, which ones are you talking about? If you ask half a dozen fans what their opinions are on any given subject, you`ll very often get a dozen different answers. By definition, any opinion is going to be highly subjective. (But if you really think there should be a fanzine, Matt, then get cracking!)
At the end of the season it will be the total points on the board that count and it won`t matter whether they come from wins or draws or in what proportion. The fact is that if we get more points than the team in 21st place we stay up; if we don`t we go down. Having seen a fair number of those 13 draws, including this last one, I can honestly say that we deserved to win more of them than we deserved to lose; although there were some of the latter, I admit. Solihull are a top-four side and I don`t think there was a lot to choose between the teams in the second half; certainly, we came closer to winning it than they did.
That being so, I`m not as worried as you seem to be – although I am concerned, obviously. I can`t be anything else whilst we`re in the drop zone, but I genuinely think that once we get our players all fit again and if we keep creating chances the way we have started to do this last couple of games we should be okay. My aspirations don`t go as high as the play-offs or even mid-table at the moment; 20th place would be acceptable (although not kind on the nerves).
My biggest concern at the moment is over how long we can keep Alex Kimowya. The difference he made when he came on for the second half on Tuesday was staggering. (Doesn`t his loan period expire in a couple of weeks? I`d love to be able to keep him until the end of the season.)
Whether we give Pembers more time in the job or appoint someone else depends, of course, on who the ‘someone’ is and even if they come with gilt-edged credentials and a proven track-record there`s still no guarantee that they`ll be successful. I thought Martin Allen was supremely qualified on both of those counts, but it still didn`t work out. JP seems to be doing okay, but says he doesn`t want the job long-term so personally I`d stick with him for a while longer – until the end of the season if he can be persuaded - and give ourselves time to look around for another manager if he doesn`t change his mind. The players showed plenty of spirit again on Tuesday and seem to be playing for him, so where`s the panic? Well, apart from the league table, that is.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - Dancingwilldoit - 03-01-2019
When Kimowya first came some fans were shouting for him to be sent back. Just shows what a bit of game time can do.
Its staggering to think that he is on loan from Doncaster. If they can afford to send players of his calibre out on loan then they must have a bloody good squad.
We used to be in the same division, similar crowds, new grounds etc. It just goes to show just how much we have fallen behind everybody.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - Devongone - 03-01-2019
Good organisations get the small things right almost all the time.
If you are slipshod and accept the second rate that is what you become. And we are heading for third rate!
A website is about how you look, how you present yourself to the world. Look like a loser and you'll be a loser. We do and we are.
Look at anything that is first rate, a shop, a hotel or a football club - they'll polish the stair rail everyday, you won't find a speck of dirt, they'll do everything they can to demonstrate they care.
We look unloved because the people in charge and those doing the work don't love the club. We are exactly what we seem.
Sadly in football there is no such thing as "apart from the league table". And I'm only guessing here, but I think Kiwomya fell out of love with football and himself. From the clips I saw early on he looked like a player the fans wanted to ditch. Now he looks groomed and bristling to go ......... before he looked like a haircut disguising itself as a footballer. Now he looks every inch like he knows he's a player again. If I were Donny I'd grab him back sharp ......... but they're doing well, if they leave him a while and he's becoming anything like the young player who was once preparing to rip the Premier League apart, he might give us and Donny a future. (And Dancing has to be right about game time .......... he's at a level at which he should star, but for that to do him any good he had to keep getting out there till it happened for him!)
But no, I think Matt's absolutely wrong on this occasion. We desperately need to get the small things right, because the big things can never go right without them. I'm big on Chaos Theory as an explanation of the way the universe works.
RE: Does he think we are daft? - spireitematt - 03-01-2019
(03-01-2019, 00:50)SaltergateBorn Wrote: The problem is, Matt, when you talk about ‘fans` opinions’, which ones are you talking about? If you ask half a dozen fans what their opinions are on any given subject, you`ll very often get a dozen different answers. By definition, any opinion is going to be highly subjective. (But if you really think there should be a fanzine, Matt, then get cracking!)
Bit like Brexit then. Everyone has an opinion and viewpoint and everyone's is different. It's remarkable sometimes to hear other fans say things about the game or a player and you think to yourself were you watching the same game?
(03-01-2019, 14:36)Devongone Wrote: Good organisations get the small things right almost all the time.
If you are slipshod and accept the second rate that is what you become. And we are heading for third rate!
A website is about how you look, how you present yourself to the world. Look like a loser and you'll be a loser. We do and we are.
If you have a business or own a business the website is the most important thing you can have especially to attract potential clients or consumers. Top organisations will have fantastic websites, good social media and communication is important as well.
The layout and design of the club's website is actually pretty good, the content could be better. There are some clubs in the National League and below which use the Pitchero websites for there teams.