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Goalless and in a pickle? - Devongone - 02-04-2017
I wasn't displeased with that, only the second time since GC's arrival.
Don't think we just parked the bus. Certainly we caught Bolton on a bad day. But you do have to learn to stay in the game against better teams if you're going to get anywhere. And Maguire and Rowley getting another 90 minutes each has to be a positive. (The average age was pretty good till we brought on SEB!) Gardner still appears a conundrum though, another O'Shea? He can play for sure, but he can also be off sick whilst still on the field.
Don't know whether Guy's appointment in charge of Development means we're in a pickle or getting on the right bus ........ but we do have to have a way of moving the club forward other than waiting for the first team to succeed, or a sugar daddy to intervene.
With a centre back as manager and another in charge of development can't say why they wouldn't bring back Raglan for a look-see before the end of the season. Hope it isn't the Chapman syndrome - scared to put him in the team in case he plays well and we feel we should offer him another contract .......... (Surely GC and GB would be better judges of his ability than DW, DS, or PC.)
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - bluepooch - 02-04-2017
It was a truly great result if taken on its own merit.A real coupon buster .Bolton were undoubtedly on fire going into the game having won their previous five games scoring at least 3 in each game .Unfortunately a draw means it was the penultimate nail in the relegation coffin as it means we could be relegated by next Saturday or Good Friday .
I didnt go but it sounded like we were on the front foot for large parts of the game and it has to be the best performance under GC ,does this mean we are improving ? well it has to be sustained for the remainder of the season .
As for Branston we will have to see but not a popular appointment id guess,we do need this vital role in the club though.
What a revelation young Rowley is and as I alluded to before I think he will have the biggest impact since K Davies .We need to be securing a good contract for him.
Was the bus company Branstons or Bransons Dev ?
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - spireitematt - 02-04-2017
Was a bit surprised we managed to get a draw against Bolton.
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - Dancingwilldoit - 02-04-2017
Bransons Blue.
Too little too late yesterday. The reports say we lined up 4-4-2. Just goes to show what we can do when we play to our strengths.
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - spireitematt - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 20:24)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: Bransons Blue.
Too little too late yesterday. The reports say we lined up 4-4-2. Just goes to show what we can do when we play to our strengths.
Did you go yesterday Dancing?
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - Devongone - 03-04-2017
Guy Branston, like the pickle not the bus unfortunately, is one of the last men I'd have guessed as a development specialist. His whole raison-d'etre on the field seemed to be to prevent anything developing at all, but did I in a million years think I was watching a future Premiership manager when I was shouting "open the gates" as Sean Dyche pumped his flailing legs down towards Saltergate as yet another cross hit the point Dave Pugh used to rattle from the edge of the area with one of his Park Drive shots? Guy might be a connoisseur of silky skills and Ticky-tacky Pete-Seager football or whatever they have in Spain.
Like Dancing I reckon now is the time to get our most promising young lads out on the first team field to see if they are ready to deliver. I hadn't guessed Rowley might be ready. And I don't reckon anyone can really tell until they give the boys a try. I do think they need to know though that it doesn't have to be like baby birds fledging. If the first flight goes badly they don't get eaten by the cat ......... they get another try.
By the way I love Matt's understatement, "was a bit surprised we managed to get a draw". I thought I was being outrageous forecasting a 5-0 defeat at Bolton, a 10-0 forecast from Matt ........... what can you say, it's like registering mild surprise at a North Korean nuclear attack on Glossop.
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - Dancingwilldoit - 03-04-2017
No Matt. Was on the verge of going then remembered the first half performance the week before and thought better of it. Nothing worse than watching your team being run over. Must admit the result was a surprise.
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - spireitematt - 03-04-2017
(03-04-2017, 12:25)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: No Matt. Was on the verge of going then remembered the first half performance the week before and thought better of it. Nothing worse than watching your team being run over. Must admit the result was a surprise.
I was going to but changed my mind at the last minute and decided to go watch Buxton play Stourbridge. I got chatting to a scout about Chesterfield and football in general, he told me he's good friends with Chris Turner and asked me about was going on at the club.
(03-04-2017, 11:26)Devongone Wrote: By the way I love Matt's understatement, "was a bit surprised we managed to get a draw". I thought I was being outrageous forecasting a 5-0 defeat at Bolton, a 10-0 forecast from Matt ........... what can you say, it's like registering mild surprise at a North Korean nuclear attack on Glossop.
Was a surprise, Bolton have been doing well in the league and have put 4 goals past Oxford, Gillingham and Fleetwood before they played us, so to go there and come away with a clean sheet and a point is a good result but a win would have been a fantastic result.
With 5 games to go and because we are pretty much relegated we should put a few youth players in the first team and see how they fair, also it gives them experience and never know if a few show something promising they could be in the first team next season.
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - Devongone - 03-04-2017
If you find one of the lads isn't quite ready yet you've got something to work on at the start of next season. And if they are ready then hey hey hey! It's one of those rare occasions in life where even the negatives are positive. We've got the chance in a competitive environment to experiment and learn. In an environment where usually every result is vital that's a valuable commodity.
Seems to me that English football in general does well with young players up to about 17. We tend to compete with any other nation. We lose it in the transition to the adult game. One of the problems is the big clubs expect players to develop to suit their time scale rather than vice versa. Bit short of the mark at 17 - you're cut. Not come on as expected when loaned out - that's the end. It's like bed-time in the Old Folk's Home - if you don't want to go at 9.30 fkuyew! Development deadlines are for the benefit of the organisation and its employees. They can afford the natural wastage it causes.
Small clubs like us tend to adopt the same model, but we don't need to be as rigid in our development structures. We can give a quickly-developing 16 year old first team experience and we could equally choose to recognise a slower-burning talent that won't really be there till the boy's a man. AND if we were smart we could pick up the talent the mechanical harvesting at big clubs will always discard. I suppose we'll soon find out whether Mr Branston is smarter than the average bear, or just bigger than the average bear.
By the way I liked Matt's post because it was such an English use of understatement. I nearly died twenty minutes into Final Score when it was still 0-0.
According to Laurence Maguire we played 5 at the back.
RE: Goalless and in a pickle? - bluepooch - 03-04-2017
I got the impression Branston was a big headed thug and when I heard him co commentating on Radio Sheff a while back it just confirmed that but Ive just listened to his interview and was surprised how articulate he was .Time will tell whether he is any good or not but Notts County fans arent exactly enamoured with him to say the least after his time there was perceived to be a failure.