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Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - Beefy 1965 - 30-12-2015
Since taking over on the first day of 2015, Pulis has overseen 38 Premier League games across two halves of two seasons and won 50 points in the process.
Not only would that tally be enough to finish in the top 10 for the past eight years, it's also more points than the Baggies have ever managed to pick up in a single Premier League season.
When Albion finished eighth under Steve Clarke in 2012-13, they did so with 49 points, writes Matt Wilson.
Pulis was brought in to turn around the club’s fortunes – quickly. He did just that, losing only one of his first eight games.
He guided the club to mid-table security last season, picking up 27 points from 19 games and finishing 13th. Without doubt, his appointment was a success.
This season, however, supporters have questioned the longevity of his tactics, as they viewed the progress of Leicester, Watford and Crystal Palace with envy.
Albion are still 13th, and Pulis has picked up 23 points from 19 games this campaign. Some teams with similar budgets are enjoying success playing more expansive football.
One swallow does not a summer make, but the performance against Newcastle should offer a renewed sense of optimism.
This is how Albion can play when they take the game to the opposition and everything clicks. The Baggies have been great without the ball this season, not so good with it.
Yes, Steve McClaren’s team were dreadful, but Albion put together several passing moves that hinted at an improvement.
Supporters wonder why attacking players, such as Callum McManaman, are left on the bench.
But Stephane Sessegnon inclusion is proof that Pulis will reward creative players – as long as they also work hard.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - aries22 - 31-12-2015
I actually thought Newcastle played ok. They were certainly dangerous when they broke.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - Tibby Baggie - 31-12-2015
I thought the same myself Aries. They had spells where they were in the ascendency in both halfs and could easily have been given a penalty.
Overall we were the better team and created enough chances to win much more comfortably than the score line suggests.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - May68 - 31-12-2015
I guess we'll have to wait and see whether the Newcastle performance was a flash in the pan or a sign of things to come.
I pointed out in an earlier thread thread that Pulis' points per game average is being bumped up by his honeymoon period last season. Before the Newcastle game we were going at 1.1 ppg this season, which is probably just about enough to survive. After that game we are now at 1.2 ppg which would see us finish on 46 points. Make of that what you will.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - Tibby Baggie - 01-01-2016
I've made a similar post before and I'll make it again here as the information is relevant. (stats courtesy of Transfermarkt)
TP - 43 games at 1.42 PPM
AI - 22 games at 1.05 PPM
PM - 17 games at 0.88 PPM
SC - 60 games at 1.18 PPM
RH - 55 games at 1.35 PPM
It's a bit rich to call Pulis' start to management here where he guided us to safety with relative ease a "honeymoon period".
The stats show that he's currently our on track as our most successful manager for results in the Premier League. You can question the entertainment value of our football and tactics in some games, you can question how he handles training with the meltdown going on in the other thread, but you cannot question the results as they stand right now. Simple as that.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - talkSAFT - 01-01-2016
There are stats for just about everything these days. Those are pretty impressive, Tibby. Can we swop TP for RH, though?
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - Ska'dForLife-WBA - 01-01-2016
(01-01-2016, 13:51)Tibby Baggie Wrote: It's a bit rich to call Pulis' start to management here where he guided us to safety with relative ease a "honeymoon period".
Further to that, I'd say that if the stats from Pulis's first few months in charge are to be dismissed as a "honeymoon period", then for the sake of consistency Roy Hodgson's stats from his opening months in charge should also be adjusted to dismiss his similar "honeymoon period". (I doubt doing that would prove or achieve anything, but when people are making statistical arguments, consistency is key).
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - Squirrel Regis - 01-01-2016
Honeymoon period eh ?
There was me thinking that we had won 4 premier league home games in the previous 12 months then TP won 3 out of his first 4 losing to Spurs ?
Looks like some peoples memory is a bit fuzzy with this honeymoon period. We were going down and he turned our results around and kept us up.
Stats prove he has kept that run going but some would like you to believe we are going down.
Crazy really.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - May68 - 02-01-2016
The phrase 'honeymoon period' seems to have got a few peoples' backs up for some reason, but the fact remains that Pulis's overall average is higher than this season's average, indicating that we are not doing as well this season as the second half of last season. I'm more concerned with what's happening now rather than living off past glories.
RE: Love Him Or Hate Him ,... Telling Stats !! - Tibby Baggie - 02-01-2016
It hasn't got my back up May, just pointing out an inconsistency in your reasoning to which others elaborated on further.