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Danny's gone. Who next? I hope whoever it is starts winning immediately or the vultures will be circling as soon as.
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Unfortunately, this was almost bound to happen when you appointed the only guy too nice and with too much history at the club to turn down the poisoned chalice.

The trouble is you now need to appoint quickly, but to do that well you need to have already planned it, which doesn't sound particularly Huddersfield ........

You didn't invest in a successful team and made the very Chesterfield move of shedding several decent players. Basically, you followed the same procedure we adopted when Paul Cook left when we weren't good enough to come through the Division One play-offs. We appointed the man who'd been our best after-dinner speaker as manager and the path to the National League was already highlighted on every supporter's map.

I'm not suggesting you are on quite the same path as our casino owner rolled out for us, but one bad decision has a way of running you headlong into an even worse one. There are worse things than going down, like going down and assuming you are too good to be involved in a second relegation battle. Appointing Danny Schofield and expecting him to pull together a weakened side was a very complacent decision. Huddersfield's fans appear to have been wide awake throughout, but behind the scenes you seem, from the perspective of a total outsider, to be sleep-walking towards Division Two.
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Well Wagz is the obvious choice, but if not we should send jjamez's in depth analysis from the match thread, to Dean Hoyle.
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(14-09-2022, 12:36)Devongone Wrote: Unfortunately, this was almost bound to happen when you appointed the only guy too nice and with too much history at the club to turn down the poisoned chalice.

The trouble is you now need to appoint quickly, but to do that well you need to have already planned it, which doesn't sound particularly Huddersfield ........

You didn't invest in a successful team and made the very Chesterfield move of shedding several decent players. Basically, you followed the same procedure we adopted when Paul Cook left when we weren't good enough to come through the Division One play-offs. We appointed the man who'd been our best after-dinner speaker as manager and the path to the National League was already highlighted on every supporter's map.

I'm not suggesting you are on quite the same path as our casino owner rolled out for us, but one bad decision has a way of running you headlong into an even worse one.  There are worse things than going down, like going down and assuming you are too good to be involved in a second relegation battle. Appointing Danny Schofield and expecting him to pull together a weakened side was a very complacent decision. Huddersfield's fans appear to have been wide awake throughout, but behind the scenes you seem, from the perspective of a total outsider, to be sleep-walking towards Division Two.


Don't worry, I fully expect our stand in Chairman to say that won't happen...when it already is and for him to once again lay the blame at somebody else's feet
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Anthony Barry, Chelsea coach, is the early favourite for the job.
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(14-09-2022, 13:21)Lord Snooty Wrote: Well Wagz is the obvious choice, but if not we should send jjamez's in depth analysis from the match thread, to Dean Hoyle.

feel free to! I'd love to work in the recruitment side at Town or any club really, the only problem is finding a way into a closed shop.

especially if it avoids us getting someone like Bowyer in.


unfortunately, the domestic 'talent' feels to be at a somewhat all time low. I can't really think of any english or british managers than really stand out. I mentioned Manning and he has a bit more experience and plays a decent style, but, its a limited experience. Other league one managers, McKenna at Ipswich, was at Man United for a long while, but again, it his first job and whilst he is doing rather well, it is still a punt. Plus there is every chance of the two sides switching places.

elsewhere in league one, you have the Cowleys at Pompey, but if you don't know how I feel about them, short story is, I ain't a fan, I've heard things and haven't exactly been proven wrong. Their character wouldn't work alongside Deans either, let me tell you that.

Schumacher at Plymouth has been mention on the examiner, again, first job, continuing on from Lowe, I suppose that is succession planning done right! I'd be concerned at the lack of experience there, I don't envisage it working.

Ainsworth at Wycombe...now he wouldn't be that bad a choice for me, but I think the odds of getting him out of there are very slim. He'd bring character to the job and some drive.

what else has league one got?

well, club by club;

Accrington- john coleman...never managed above league one, and one would think never will

Barnsley- just appointed Michael Duff so can write that one off

Bolton- Ian Evatt, done well with little money, actually probably not a bad fit for the club, but I'd suggest like Danny, it would be 2 years too early.

Bristol- Joey Barton...enough said, actually really smart, also actually really a dikhed... wouldn't work with Hoyle or Bromby

Burton- sacked Jimmy Floyd, wouldn't want him anyways

Cambridge- couldn't tell you much about Mark Bonner. Was assistant for a while I think but has been part of the furniture at Cambridge despite being in his 30's won't be an option

Charlton- only recently appointed Ben Garner

Cheltenham- another new manager

Derby- see above

Exeter- Matt Taylor, got them promoted in his first and only managerial job, but I can't see him being someone town would be looking at just now.

Fleetwood- new manager in scott brown

FGR- new manager

Ipswich- mentioned already

Lincoln- new manager to replace Appleton

MK Dons- Liam Manning... the more I look at options and ideas, the more he does seem to strike me as the way forward for Town, despite not a lot of experience... put a quid on it...

Morecambe- Derek Adams...pass

Oxford- Karl Robinson...10 year ago maybe... although despite the whines and moans, I think there is a good manager there. But I think some town fans would be underwhelmed.

Posh- Mccann...relatively new there, but it would be a no regardless

Plymouth- already mentioned

Port Vale- due to other reasons i wouldn't be looking there

Pompey- Cowleys...

Wednesday- Well Darren Moore likes walking out on clubs, ask Donny. Would organise and lead, but not the one for me

Shrewsbury- Cotterill... no

Wycombe- mentioned.

League Two- nothing stands out at all, if we wanted a cheap option that works on a shoestring then Clough did well at Burton and Derby but there are far far faaaar better options out there.

National league- be desperate if we are looking there, but in saying that Paul Cook, has always seemed to play decent enough football and gets linked to bigger jobs but never quite achieves. His time at Ipswich is what has sent him further down the pyramid and I think the only way he comes back up is by getting Chesterfield promoted...but he is still a better option than the likes of Bowyer, Woodgate et al.

I'll post something about other names shortly. I'll see if I can find anything from abroad that intrigues me. I'm still very much in the Wolf pack!!
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So looking at the other names that are on sky bet...

They currently have Wagner as favourite, I wouldn't be against it but I wouldn't want him to tarnish his reputation here either.

Anthony Barry is second favourite. He's a coach at Chelsea who was well thought of under the Tuchel regime, what his role is in the Potter one I don't quite know. He is also a coach with the Belgium national side, which isn't a bad gig when you think about it. In terms of his playing career, he largely played in the lower leagues, Fleetwood, Wrexham and Accrington to name a few. His coaching began as an assistant to Paul Cook before going to Chelsea as an assistant to Lampard and Tuchel. He has also held an assistant role with the Republic of Ireland.

Duncan Ferguson- Well he'd definitely take no nonsense from the players. His coaching career is still in its infancy, he was first a technical director at Everton before he became an assistant to Carlo Ancelotti and Rafa Benitez. He had a couple of spells as a caretaker with not much to write about, he was last an assistant to Lampard but left over the summer to pursue his own top job. He recently pulled out of talks with Dundee United as they look for a new manager.

Manning is third.

Michael Carrick- Wasn't a bad player, often went a bit too backwards and sideways at the end of his career and never really stood out as a proper leader on the pitch or off it when he was assistant to Ole and Jose at Manchester United. He might make a good manager, but I think he would be a big risk once again, much like Ferguson would be.

Sean Dyche- does what it says on the tin, and I don't think that tin will be destined for the John Smiths Stadium

Daniel Farke- no idea why he is even in the running, he works for Gladbach in Germany and has only 7 games, so bluntly. No chance

Neill Collins- former Sheffield United defender, played against us in the play off final, currently out in America managing Tampa Bay with Jon Stead as his assistant. Has a really good record at Tampa, winning 80 of his 147 games. I can't tell you much of the standard that Tampa play in, other than it is below the MLS. Would be a left field option and I'd class it as a risk. Based on what I know the standard could be anything from Championship to National North/South. If it is low end championship to top end League one then it is a good option, if it is more conference and below then its too big a risk.

Warnock- surely this retirement is final?

Paul Harsley- where have I heard that before, ah yes, he came as Schofields assistant in the summer, no point considering, the word out is external appointment.

Ainsworth- mentioned in another post

Nigel Adkins- another who 10 year ago would have been a good option when his stock was high, he was even mentioned before the Cowleys. As a stop gap, maybe, but i'd be underwhelmed by his appointment.

After that we are looking at the no thank yous, the likes of Sol Campbell, Robbie Fowler and Gus Poyet.

Other domestic I'm struggling with, there has been a mention of Michael O'Neil, but it would be a no from me, he struggled at Stoke, considering the budget and squad there. I don't think it would be a good fit. Other British managers out of work would see you looking at the likes Pullis- nope, Pardew- nope and Paul Lambert- still nope. Another name that got mentioned, not long after Schofield was actually appointed was Mark Robins, Coventry haven't played as many games as the rest and haven't started brilliantly. I found him to be quite dour when he was here last, don't think thats changed but he has done well there, but I can't see it and he walked out on Dean so not sure Dean would go back.

Now if we start looking abroad, I'm not sure where. I've mentioned the German managers that I'd be interested in, on a side note Frank Schmidt has managed Heidenheim since 2007... didn't think i'd see that long a job anymore since the likes of Fergie and Wenger. I can't say i'm clued up on Spanish managers, in fact I'd be saying you'd be taking a punt on one if you did, former top pros in the likes of Raul, Guti and Xabi Alonso. Alonso managed Real Sociedad B for a while and has a half decent record, played at the elite level and was elite himself, played under some world class managers and with world class players. As far being a risk he is, but it would a more calculated risk. Watford have had a few and I've found them to be underwhelming really, Oscar Garcia I felt was alright when at Brighton, but he is currently in France managing Reims. Speaking of France, this is another place where my knowledge of managers is lacking, there has been a few come over to England and do okay, but the ones that stick out are the likes of Montanier and Lamouche both at Forest who were underwhelming.

I think with Bromby and Hoyle picking, be prepared to be underwhelmed, maybe even unhappy
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Hoyle had Farke lined up last year when Potless pissed off.

Then Carlos started winning games and nothing happened on that front. Like you say, he's got another job now so won't be coming here.
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one other name, but one that I think would be a pipe dream would be Kjetil Knutsen at Bodo/Glimt, he's being linked with the Brighton and Bournemouth job, plus his side are in the European competitions so I don't see it, but if Hoyle wants to push then theres someone that would prove it.

for me the realistic options that i be happy with

Wolf
Wagner
Manning
Barry
Ainsworth
Terry
Alonso

Underwhelming but adequate for me would be the likes of Cook, Robinson, Adkins and probably Carrick.

No goes are Bowyer, Johnson, Woodgate and O'Neil
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This was lined up for my Cardiff thread

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I sort of get Barry but then again I don't. He's another looking for his first lead role and likely earns more at Chelsea anyway than we were paying Carlos or Danny.
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