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RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - Wereham Owl - 10-09-2014
The "land of fire" isn't really helping mamma to be fair, it's not really helping his companies image , it's just a slogan, it could realistically apply to anything.. not like Chupa Chups, or Sanderson, they were company names, so it's not free advertising in any way, it's just a slogan that could apply to anything so why refund any money, not Wednesdays fault, all done in good faith etc , etc
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - consilio - 10-09-2014
Of course it's helping his companies image. And we are a fair chunk of money down because we now have no shirt sponsorship money coming in.
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - Maddix - 11-09-2014
It will be interesting to see what Atletico have on their shirts. Anyone know
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - Thurnscoe_OWL - 11-09-2014
Atletico have 2 sponsors and switch between the 2 anyway.
From a business/legal POV, MM agreeing a new sponsorship whilst still under contract could breach the original contract with 'Azerbaijian' and thus any compensation claim MM files could be thrown out. MM needs to wait for the outcome of any legal proceedings before he can do anything else
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - St Charles Owl - 11-09-2014
Thurnscoe, you are probably right with that. As regards Athletico, I assume they still have it on their shirts as they have probably been paid!!
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - madsteve - 12-09-2014
The news that Hutch & Lee are both out tomorrow brings the weakness of the Owls medical team back into focus.
Two weeks ago, Hutch was 50/50 to play against Forest & lee was a week away from fitness. Two weeks later & both are still unfit. Also Lavery isn't progressing & we don't know why.
This lack of quality in the medical team is costing us points & thousands in loan fees.
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - consilio - 12-09-2014
Hutchinson and Lee are both injury prone and will always be that way. We knew that when we signed them.
Players often have set backs during their recovery periods.
The medical team could be brilliant and they could be rubbish. We will never know for sure
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - madsteve - 12-09-2014
(12-09-2014, 11:35)consilio Wrote: Hutchinson and Lee are both injury prone and will always be that way. We knew that when we signed them.
Players often have set backs during their recovery periods.
The medical team could be brilliant and they could be rubbish. We will never know for sure
Don't doubt they are injury prone but how could Hutch be 50/50 two weeks ago & now be ruled out. That was a terrble prognosis.
What we do know is that the medical team brought in by Lee Strafford worked wonders. After years of injuries, we had two years of minimal injuries until MM got rid of them as a cost cutting measure. Since then, we have had injuries galore. I understand the injury prevention activities have stopped and we have hsd to spend loads on loan fees to cover for the injured players.
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - Thurnscoe_OWL - 12-09-2014
According to SG Lavery is on schedule with his return and rumours of him needing an operation are made up, Hutch and Lee are both struggling so won't be risked. That's according to his Bolton press conference anyway
(12-09-2014, 12:37)madsteve Wrote:(12-09-2014, 11:35)consilio Wrote: Hutchinson and Lee are both injury prone and will always be that way. We knew that when we signed them.
Players often have set backs during their recovery periods.
The medical team could be brilliant and they could be rubbish. We will never know for sure
Don't doubt they are injury prone but how could Hutch be 50/50 two weeks ago & now be ruled out. That was a terrble prognosis.
What we do know is that the medical team brought in by Lee Strafford worked wonders. After years of injuries, we had two years of minimal injuries until MM got rid of them as a cost cutting measure. Since then, we have had injuries galore. I understand the injury prevention activities have stopped and we have hsd to spend loads on loan fees to cover for the injured players.
I can't remember MM getting rid of any physio/medical personel but this bit in bold is not true.
The 2009/10 season we had Simek, Tudgay, Esajas, Jeffers, Tommy Miller, JJ, Leon Clarke, Sean McAllister all suffering injuries and being out for longer than really should have been the case.
JJ did his hamstring missed months. Tudgay broke his toe missed months. Simek was LT (could argue it wasn't avoidable).
The season before you could add Sodje.
I'd say our fitness and medical teams are better than then
RE: Sheff Weds 2014-15 - The First Half - madsteve - 12-09-2014
(12-09-2014, 13:29)Thurnscoe_OWL Wrote: According to SG Lavery is on schedule with his return and rumours of him needing an operation are made up, Hutch and Lee are both struggling so won't be risked. That's according to his Bolton press conference anyway
(12-09-2014, 12:37)madsteve Wrote:(12-09-2014, 11:35)consilio Wrote: Hutchinson and Lee are both injury prone and will always be that way. We knew that when we signed them.
Players often have set backs during their recovery periods.
The medical team could be brilliant and they could be rubbish. We will never know for sure
Don't doubt they are injury prone but how could Hutch be 50/50 two weeks ago & now be ruled out. That was a terrble prognosis.
What we do know is that the medical team brought in by Lee Strafford worked wonders. After years of injuries, we had two years of minimal injuries until MM got rid of them as a cost cutting measure. Since then, we have had injuries galore. I understand the injury prevention activities have stopped and we have hsd to spend loads on loan fees to cover for the injured players.
I can't remember MM getting rid of any physio/medical personel but this bit in bold is not true.
The 2009/10 season we had Simek, Tudgay, Esajas, Jeffers, Tommy Miller, JJ, Leon Clarke, Sean McAllister all suffering injuries and being out for longer than really should have been the case.
JJ did his hamstring missed months. Tudgay broke his toe missed months. Simek was LT (could argue it wasn't avoidable).
The season before you could add Sodje.
I'd say our fitness and medical teams are better than then
The Injury Prevention Team (under former Physio Alan Smith) was only brought in in March 2010 so had no affect on the 09/10 season. They worked with Wednesday for two full seasons (10/11 & 11/12), during which we had less preventable injuries (muscle/ligament/tendon) than we had in any season for as long as I can remember. Since then, it seems to be injury after injury. In the last two seasons, Lee, Gardner, Reda & Buxton have been unavailable for matches than they have been available.